During Pi's grueling 227 day journey, his "greatest wish — other than salvation — was to have a book. A long book with a never-ending story. One I could read again and again, with new eyes and a fresh understanding each time" (Martel 262). Many readers feel that Yann Martel has created just this type of book because each time they read it, they find new insight and connections that generate profound ideas and meaningful discussion. At the very least, Life of Pi is a book rich in theme, imagery, symbolism, and philosophical ideas.
Directions: For your final assessment of Life of Pi, you will respond to the each of the following questions explored by the novel. Then you must respond to at least two other student responses (more if you want) for a minimum total of 6 responses. If you want an A on this assignment, you must go above and beyond the minimum requirement. Each response must be at least 100 words in length. You must complete no less than one response per day until all required responses are posted. All responses are due by midnight on Sunday, March 25th.
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- In the "Author's Note," Francis Adirubasamy tells the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." Life of Pi proceeds to relate that story. Now that you have finished the novel, what do you make of Adirubasamy's claim? Why might he have said that? To what extent is the claim true? Use specific text to support you response.
- Writer and philosopher Roland Barthes said,“Literature is the question minus the answer.” In Life of Pi, by Yann Martel, the author raises many questions about the boundary between truth and belief, leaving it up to the reader to come up with the answers. At the end of the novel, he offers two choices, asking us to choose which story we prefer; in other words, “which is the better story?” While each reader will most likely answer this question for her/himself, this, alone, is not Martel’s point in writing the novel. In the same way we can imagine Richard Parker out there somewhere, hidden under the foliage of a Mexican jungle, Martel’s central message is also lying in wait, partially concealed beneath the cover of fact vs. belief, logic vs. faith, and myth vs. reality. As you consider the end of the novel, as well as the beginning and the end, what do you feel is Martel’s central message? (Hint: Which story is the "true" story? Does it matter which story is true?)
- Up until the reader encounters the island chapter is part 2 of the novel, most of what Pi has related is improbable, but not wholly unbelievable. The algae island, however, is an impossibility in the physical world as we know it. Martel has said that the island helps prepare the reader for part 3. Now that you have finished the novel, what might this island symbolize and how does it fit in with the overall message of the novel?
- Martel uses binary opposition throughout the entire novel. Choose one set of opposites and discuss how Martel develops this paradoxical pair throughout the book and perhaps how it relates to the central message. For example, consider opposites such as faith vs. reason, science vs. religion, light vs. dark, blindness vs. sight, boredom vs. terror, despair vs. hope, etc. (Chapter 78 will help you with this.)
Life of Pi is a book that could make someone believe in god due to Pi’s experiences and survival. When going back and looking over everything that Pi went through, it is incredibly surprising that he conquered everything that was in his path; to some it may be hard to believe that Pi survived completely on his own. When looking at the comparison between the human and animal characters, there is a blank when it comes to Pi on the animal side. One could only assume that Pi was god. On an evolutionary standpoint, humans are much more sophisticated and intelligent than animals, “and so it is with god” (Martel 317) and humans. In the animal story it was Pi who fed Richard Parker and kept him alive because Pi was more sophisticated and intelligent. When looking at the human story Richard Parker was Pi, who was kept alive by god, “I turned to God. I survived.”(Martel 311) Through Martels sophisticated and intricate intertwining of Life of Pi, the presence and belief of god is regularly prevalent. Kyle Woo
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DeleteWhen Francis Adirubamy tells the author “I Have a story that will make you believe in God” the author instantly becomes interested with this story. Now that I have finished this book and I am given the choice to believe in the animal story or the human story, both the exact same but some way completely different. One story seams more sympathetic and gruesome where as the other is intriguing and makes you question everything what is real and what is fake, forcing you to want to know more and wanting to see it for yourself. Most people claim that seeing is believing. But if you believe in god already your mind set is; believing is seeing. If you can believe Pi’s original story with a tail of Richard parker and the other animals you believing without seeing giving you the choice of if god is real or not.
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ReplyDeleteFrancis Adirubasamy's comment, " I have a story that will make you believe in God " was a very bold statement. I believe that Life of Pi is a long half fictional, half true story about a young man (PI) whose faith is tested. Without Pi's belief in God he would of never made it through his journey at sea. Without a strong belief in God there is no way that a reader can accept Martel's story with the animals. At the end of the story the men interviewing Pi do not believe his story with the animals because it seems too unreasonable. Pi brings up the fact that most people do not believe things they have not experienced, " Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask and scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer." (Martel 297) Even after experience some things are still hard to believe, and thats where faith comes in. At the end of the novel Martel gives us these two versions of the story and lets us choose, faith or reason.
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In Francis Adirubasamy's statement "I have a story that will make you believe in God," he tells Pi how life does not always come with reason or answers to our problems. The author uses Adirubasamy's message to set up his own collage of ideas throughout his own book, Life of Pi. He also wanted us to have our own choice to believe or not, and choose reason over faith or faith over reason. Pi tells the reporters that you must first see it to believe, and the author was portraying that if you can see God in the path of life, you can imagine or even convince others of anything. As Patel explains, "Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask any scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer." Further, reinstating that the power to decide is upon you is Mr. Patel, and that the reader can battle with their own faith over logic to find clarity.
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ReplyDeleteWe can gather from the information that Martel gives us with the newspaper clippings and report from the Japanese Ministry of Transport that Life of Pi is, if not based on, reality. However, the reader is offered two stories, giving them the opportunity to chose which one they believe. However, Martel's overall message is hidden deeper, and is summed up from Pi's own words, "[they] lack imagination and miss the better story" (Martel 65). Pi gives us an "animal" version of his survival and a "human" version. In my opinion, both of them are true. As Pi tells his Japanese investigators, "the world isn't just the way it is. It is how we understand it, no?" (Martel 302). Every person is an individual; just as there are no two fingerprints alike, no two people are identical. How they perceive their lives, how they grieve and celebrate, is based on their own "myths". The point, or message, is not which account really happened, it is for the reader to rise beyond the "dry, yeastless factuality" (Martel 302) and to take the leap of faith within their own story, whether in science like the atheist or in religion as a believer.
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I agree with Aimee Scott when she says “Every person is an individual; just as there are no two fingerprints alike, no two people are identical. How they perceive their lives, how they grieve and celebrate, is based on their own "myths". The point, or message, is not which account really happened, it is for the reader to rise beyond the "dry, yeast less factuality" (Martel 302) and to take the leap of faith within their own story, whether in science like the atheist or in religion as a believer.” Just like in the book Life of Pi we all face our own “myths” and “truths” the difficult part of our decision is whether we will face it as Pi did relying on God and doing “spiritual warfare” or depending on science as did Mr. Kumar. As Amie said we all have a decision to make whether we go at it with science or religion is our decision. We will use our religion to make choices in our everyday lives there is a Pi and a Mr. Kumar in all of us. It is truly our decision for which one gets through and makes the judgment. The question is what side of you will win and what will you believe? Fact or Faith.
DeleteThe statement “I have a story that will make you believe in God” carries a lot of meaning. Automatically the Atheists say, “yeah right”, the Agnostics say, “maybe” and the Believers say, “can he?” This story fills the reader with questions, but the dark and foreboding question in the back of everyone’s mind is: when will the story convince me of God? When Adirubasamy makes the claim that he has a story that will make everyone and anyone believe in God at first I was uncertain how the story was going to do that; however, that being said, Adirubasamy’s claim is found true. He said that because he had heard of what Pi had gone through, the story (and Pi) had convinced him of God’s existence. The claim is very true in the sense that the author has given the facts written down in the transcript from the Japanese Ministry of Transport stating: “Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask any scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer." (Martel 297). This shows that just because you cannot see love or God that does not mean they are not there. Pi also mentions “the blackness was would stir and eventually go away, and God would remain a shining point of light in my heart. I would go on loving” (Martel 209). Through all of Pi’s trials he continues to believe and God gets him through. Wherein his science (solar stills) failed him, God was always at hand.
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DeleteIn Francis Adirubasamy tells the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." i believe Pi's story makes everyone test their faith in god. No body has seen god first hand, just like people never saw Pi's journey in person. The idea of God is hard to believe and pi's story with richard parker is hard to believe. To believe any of this is up to the reader which is what i think Francis was trying to do. He wanted the reader to think and decide what to believe. To decide to believe in Pi's story with richard parker or to believe the story that seems more realistic.
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In Life of Pi by Yann Martel the statement "I have a story that will make you believe in God" presented by Francis Adirubasamy makes Pi and the reader ponder if God is really out there and if he is helping Pi go through his journey out at sea. Adirubasamy may have said this to keep the fact that God may have pushed Pi all along in the back of our minds however this could be the example of how faith can carry someone through their troubles and issues. This claim can go either way if this is true or not this all depends on the person whom is reading the novel and their beleif system." Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask and scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer." (Martel 297 This statement saying Love is as hard as finding a God and God is as hard asfinding love, when you need it most it does not appear when you least expect it God touches in mysterious places.
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In part two of Life of Pi, Pi encounters a mysterious island, which in fact is made up of algae, full of meerkats and freshwater ponds. Even stranger dead fish rise to the surface of the ponds at night and disappear by morning. I think the island symbolizes no matter how perfect something seems there’s always something wrong, therefore the symbol for story itself. Also the author sets up the island for us to believe that the animal story is not real because with the fruit with the teeth inside and how the acid algae at night, how all of that is not realistic its Yann Martel’s way of showing us that the animal story is not actually what happened.
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I agree with Jordan about how Martel uses the island as a symbol for the whole story, perfect is within an imperfect world. The island prepares you for Part 3 by bringing in actions that any island is not capable of doing, as Jordan states "fruit with the teeth inside" and "acid algae at night," how is an island able to be carnivorous? I also agree with Jordans statement of how the animal story is not what actually happened because Pi, in the animal story, was God and helping to keep Pi, well Richard Parker in animal story, alive throughout.
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I agree with Jordan because makes complete sense. Through most of the story your thinking maybe this is possible but the island shows its fiction. The island represents paradise their salvation from this horror in the ocean but, “The Island is Carnivorous,” where the island devours with acid is very unbelieveable. I agree with her statement that the island symbolizes the story of the animals and that leads us better into the third part 3 since you feel this isn’t real, looking for the real story. But I think island has other meanings like that maybe the island was where Pi retrained his Faith that helped him push off and find land. quentin
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ReplyDeleteAdirubasamy’s Story is one that I believe forces the reader to look closer at what they chose to believe, whether that belief is in God or not. While in the book the reader must chose to believe which of the stories are true in reality that choice is between choosing what we deem to be plausible or taking that leap of faith. So in a way both of the stories in the book are true but it is not the facts that matter but what the reader chooses to believe. In the book Pi states “If you stumble at mere believability, what are you living for?” (Martel 297) Even if we don’t believe in God we all have beliefs that dictate the way we lead our lives. I believe when Adirubasamy said “I have a story that will make you believe in God” I think he meant he has a story that will make us believe in our own beliefs whether that be God or not.
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In the "Author's Note," Francis Adirubasamy tells the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." Now that we have finished the novel it is clear to see why he made this statement. The obsticals that pi has to overcome throught his adventure along with the situations he has been able to get out of, prove that there must be a god, or some outter force helping pi. The author attemps give us the decision as to weather or not we will belive in faith over reason or reason over faith. After reading the novel Life Of Pi, the reader will be forced to look at what they chose as to be real or fake, and will forever have a diffrent outlook on life.
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When Adirubasamy states, "I have a story that will make you believe in God" it really makes the reader think. In his interview with the two Japanese men at the end of the story, Pi tells two different stories that accounted for his 227 days at sea as a castaway. Though his second telling of the story seems much more plausible and easier to believe, his first which included many animals and a "botanically impossible" algae island. They question him about the island saying that it could not possibly exist to which he replies, "Only because you have never seen them." (Martel 370)meaning that just because we can't see something doesn't mean that it's not real, just as people believe in God. Also, as the men are about to leave he asks them which of his two stories they like better, since they cannot prove either and have to take his word for it. They reply that the story with the animals is the better story. Pi then says, "Thank you. And so it goes with God." (Martel 399) meaning that since we can neither prove nor disprove that God is real we should choose the better story.
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Before this book truly starts Yann Martel, the author, travels to India for inspiration for his latest book. But instead he meets a man named Francis Adirubasamy who tells Martel he has a story that will make him believe in God.The book life of pi is a miraculous story of how a sixteen year-old boy, Pi Patel, survived 227 days on a life boat with a tiger living right next to him. Through this "adventure" Pi's strong devotion to his multiple religions shows that there is strength in having something to believe in. This story of survival makes one realize that faith was able to give him the power to struggle through this crisis. "I practised religious rituals that i adapted to the circumstances"(Martel 263). By practicing these rituals he was able to keep himself "sane". Many would believe that he truly found a higher power to elevate his suffering.
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I do believe that like Pi and his beliefs we all have our own beliefs that keep us “sane”. Our beliefs may not be spiritual as Pi’s was, but instead the beliefs may be about ourselves or others. The belief of truth in ourselves, the belief that truth will prevail. When people say that they have no “beliefs” that is an outright lie because that statement in itself is a “belief”, a belief in nothing. Our beliefs give us the power to fight and survive. Our beliefs may not carry rituals or ceremonies, but it keeps us sane it keeps us alive believing in something even if that belief is nothing.
Delete1.In the "Author's Note," Francis Adirubasamy tells the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." Life of Pi proceeds to relate that story. Now that you have finished the novel, what do you make of Adirubasamy's claim? Why might he have said that? To what extent is the claim true? Use specific text to support you response.
ReplyDeleteWhile Francis Adirubasamy tells the author, " I have a story that will make you believe in God." The idea of God is proven throughout the story, through the uses of symbolism ( The Night Sky, even the Thunder storm ). While he claims that it might actually be an act of God that pushed Pi through this journey to make him realize that this God, is indeed real. The night sky swarming Pi's eyes and Pi finally realizing that he is not alone, that God is actually with him on this journey. Perhaps that Pi figures out this is just another push of God to show that he is real. Possibly like the one story from the bible where it says God asked a man to kill his son, and he did. (Even though in misery he did fulfill God's wish) Pi might have taken this long journey as a trail from God, and in the end he and anyone else who hears the story is able to see the faint footprints of God.
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In Life of Pi, the character Mr. Adirubasamy makes the statement, "I have a story that will make you beleive in God." I beleive his claim was completely credible and relavent. It was a statement that certainly would have drawn different reactions between atheists, agnostics, and beleivers. The ending of the book in part three, when the two men from the Japanese Ministry of Transportation, was when the claim tied into the story and made more sense. While the men didnt beleive Pi's story, Pi responded with statements such as, "Be excessively reasonable and you risk throwing the universe out with the bathwater," and "God is hard to beleive, ask any beleiver." By Making these statements he is arguing that a person's physical reality of the world may not always align with truth. In this way, Pi's point after his story give no reason to not beleive in God.
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In the "Author's Note", after being told by Francis Adirubasamy that he has a story that would make him believe in God, the author is a bit skeptical and curious of the elderly man's claim. The reader is most likely intended to share his skepticism and as a result, the reader is hooked into reading the rest of the book. Throughout the story, the author tells of Pi's unwaivering faith through his struggles at sea. In the end, Pi finally addresses the skepticism of both the author and the reader by using logic to justify Adirubasamy's claim:"So tell me, siince it makes no factual difference to you and you can't prove the question either way, which story do you prefer? Which is the better story, the story with animals or the story without animals?" (398) The point that Pi is making reflects the idea of faith as a whole. His belief is that if there is no way to prove or disprove something(like God) than why not "take that leap of faith"
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ReplyDeleteThroughout this novel Yann Martel discusses the paradox relationship between science and religion. At the start of Life of Pi Pi has a conversation with Mr. Kumar that depicts this relationship, “There are no grounds for going beyond a scientific explanation of reality and no sound reason for believing anything but our sense experience. A clear intellect, close attention to detail and a little scientific knowledge will expose religion as superstitious bosh. God does not exist.” (Martel 27) We see that Pi wished to further his knowledge on this subject by majoring in both zoology and religious studies. Martel represents their distance yet also their relationship as he tells the readers Pi’s story. Pi placed all of his faith in God while he was suffering on the lifeboat, yet he also took science in order to survive by filtering the rain water and fishing for food. He found a way to balance these two completely opposite ideas but also use them to benefit him with the intention of staying alive. Both science and religion provide people with the information they need in order to explain the meanings behind their lives, some people choose to take the leap of faith and put their lives in the hands of Gods while others rely on facts to settle their reasoning, thus the paradoxical relationship of science vs. religion.
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I believe with what Carissa has stated about Martels central message through the use of faith and reason. Pi uses his faith in God that he will survive and has the reason and knowledge of science of survival skills to help keep him alive. Both faith and reason give each believer a way to cope with how life and the reason why they exist. God gives the spiritual believers someone to help them with their problems and answers; behind reasoners, there has to be a logical reason for every detail in life.
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In Francis Adirbrusamay's statement in the Author's note"I have a story that will make you believe in God." I belive this a symbol thart Pi uses throught out the book to survive and then makes you question yourself if Pi's stories he told in his interview are real or not and he does so by saying " Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask and scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer." this quote top me means whatever story you believe in is real because for one Pi doesn't make it super clear which is real or not so he leaves it up to the reader to decide.
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I agree with what zach is saying that it is left up to you to decide which story is real. However I think that when Pi says " Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask and scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer." he is hinting at the fact that even though the animal story is hard to belive that it is what really happened.
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Adirubasamy's claim of " I have a story that will make you believe in God" is a quote that can be interpreted in many ways. Throughout "Lif of Pi", Pi makes references to his beliefs in a number of situations. From beginning to end of the book, Pi has difficulties discovering which religion he chooses to follow. After contimplating, he decides to study all three. Most say that is impossible, but it seems to Pi that through his own eyes he sees each religion in his own way; there is no wrong choice. Deeper into chapter 2, Pi resorts to God in the catastrophies that occur on the life boat. Each night, he looks up at the stars and prays to 3 different Gods knowing each will save him. Pi tells the story of 5 animals when in fact in the ending he describes an alternate story where the characters on the boat were humans, not animals. While reading this book, the audience must choose to believe the story of the animals or the humans. Going back to Adirubasamy's quote, these metaphors all connect to the notion that believing in Pi's animal story is similar to the way people will choose faith over reason and logic.
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The story of Pi’s journey at sea was described by Mr. Adirubasamy as
ReplyDeletea story that will make you believe in god. After reading the novel, this statement is no longer viewed as a persuasion towards one religion. Pi Patel practices Hinduism, Christianity, and Islam; three religions that all contradict each other, but Pi finds a way to accept them all. This novel revolves around what you choose to believe. Martel gives many options on what you can believe, Animals or Humans being the most prevalent controversy, but he goes past that and instead of asking you to choose he asks the reader to accept. Accept that it was an act of god that allowed Pi Patel to survived 227 days at sea. Mr. Adirubasamy doesn’t tell you what god you will believe in, he just knows that after hearing Pi’s story you must acknowledge that something other than Pi’s cunning or a survival guide helped him survive.
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ReplyDeleteRoland Barthes's comment,"Literature is the question minus the answers," is deeply rooted within Life of Pi. Throughout the book Martel makes the reader stop to question their belief. Faith or Reason. Science or Religion. Providing no right or wrong, just leaving it to their own interpretation. For example the two different stories of his castaway adventures. These two stories being polar opposites, you can conclude that they directly connect to faith vs reason. One story being completely believable and reasonable, while the other story having many different aspects of it that were hard to believe and unrealistic. These two stories directly tie into Martel's central message which isn't whether one of the stories is correct, it's the way it makes the reader feel about their beliefs. The investigators, for example, like to cling onto the factual story (no animal story), but when asked they truly enjoy believing in faith (in this case animal story). So the real purpose for Martel's stories was to allow readers to practice what they believe in and examine how the stories affect their interpretation of faith vs reason. Danny Silva Block 1
When Francis Adirubasamy tells the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God," I believe that the story Pi tells makes one test their own faith. The idea of not seeing something but it being there raises deep question. How do we know it is there or did it really happen? We cannot see God but one has to trust he is there. Pi’s story was hard to believe and nobody but him was there to experience it; it is up to the reader to decide the truth from fantasy. When Pi states “only because you’ve never seen them” (370) it relates to the whole book and we the readers must put it all together and make out what life is in our own way. Francis might have said this right off the bat in the “Author’s Note” make one think deeper into the story and to draw the readers in. The claim is true to the extent that it is up the reader is to choose whether or not the story, in fact, was a story that made them believe in God.
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Hey Kids, I've enjoyed reading all your postings, and I'm impressed with the the depth of your ideas. I thought I'd add that, when I first read Mr. Adirubasamy's words in the opening chapter, I assumed that by reading the novel, I'd be convinced of the existence of God. I was expecting the author to communicate some sort of evidence. But instead, Martel tells a story of faith vs. logic, and of the possibility of a living a life where, instead of cancelling each other out, they both have their place. And as for the two stories - is the importance really in which is true? Or is it which each person chooses as true? A fictional story is "made up," of course. But can it still be true at the same time? -Somers
ReplyDeleteIt's like Santa Clause, even though he is actually "made up" (Sorry for those of who still thought he was real) the meaning and purpose of Santa is still there. And yes I agree, I believe we were supposed to take aspects from both stories or he would not have told both. It is faith vs reason but I think he's trying to make you see that you don't have to make them versus. Infact you can use both, In life were faced with obstacles that logic cannot explain and same goes for obstacles that faith can't. It's a process in which we apply to life and cannot be too stubborn to ignore one or the other. This is why Pi can't stand the agnostics, reading the book from their point of view is, "Well one of them is right, I'm just not sure."
DeleteI don't think "Life of Pi" was solely intended to make someone believe in god but instead make readers believe in the idea of faith. Martel used both stories to make his overall message clear; people have forgotten the power or faith because of their skepticism. They need logic along with facts to why things are the way they are. Don't get me wrong facts are great which is why both the logical side and the impractical side of the story were told but the story which was harder to believe had just as much truth as the believable version. It isn't important for readers to choose one story or the other but to use both to understand the power of faith in the unknown.
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In Francis Adirubasamy note, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." While reading the text scepticism is istantly aroused by all, even those who already believe. The relation of this qoute to the book is that the first story arouses scepticism as well. It's hard to believe in something you can't see, just like it's hard to believe Pi's first story that you can't make logical sense out of. But Pi tells us, "Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask any scientist. God is hard to belive, ask any believer. What is your problem with hard to belive?" As these statements roll around in my head I can see that he is right and that we shouldn't just belive in something because it makes sense. You are actually more stupid, or less intellectual, if you are so stubborn to say no thats impossible. People believed that the sun orbited the earth, that the earth was flat, and if you vowed against these principles you were subject to witchery and/or death. Pi also responds to the japanese men after they say his story is unlikley with saying, "So is winning he lottery, yet someone always wins." These elements Martel throws in there really makes the reader think, step back a moment and rethink what we have been taught all along. Maybe what Mrs. Somers is teaching us is illogical, but I guess only Pi knows ;P
ReplyDeleteIn the authors notes Francis Adirubasamy says "I can tell you a story that will make you believe in God". I see the reason he made this statment was for the unwavering will to survie Pi had. Pi claimed it may be his measure of madness but to me it seemed it was more like Pi's faith that kept him alive. From within him he heard "I will not die. I refuse it. I will make it through this nightmare. I will beat the odds, as great as they are. I have survived so far, miraculously. Now I will turn miracle into routine. The amazing will be seen every day. I will put in all the hard work necessary. Yes, so long as God is with me, I will not die. Amen." At first this speech seemed only about his emphatic will to survive but in the end we see God and faith is what gets Pi through this tramatic event. Add in the amazing tale of Pi's 227 day voyage through hell and you have a story that shows how God may just be apart of our world.
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In Francis Adirbrusamay's statement in the Author's note he says "I have a story that will make you believe in God." I believe he is referring to the end of the novel. Pi gives us (The Reader) the choice on which story to believe. It leaves us confused because both of his story's are almost identical. The only difference is his use of characters. Why is it easier for us to believe the human version? Because we like to believe in things we know are realistic and that have some sort of fact behind them. Pi is trying to tell us just because you cant see something doesn't mean its not real. This plays into almost all religions. Most don't believe because we cannot actually see any form of gods or prophets, we just merely have to have faith and trust in them. Who are we to determine what categorizes the difference from fake and real?
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I disagree, I think the animal version is easier to believe. Who wants to live in a world where it's okay for people to eat other people and kill parents in front of their children? (I know kong 2012). Just because the characters turn human in the third section does not make the story anymore factual than it already is. Animals are just as real as humans, in fact Darwin claims that we're derived from chimps, so if anything aren't they more real than us? They've been on this planet longer and have evolved more than we have, haven't they? Again, I disagree with your statement "...just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not real." our eyes are possibly one of the most deceiving senses. They create allusions when we get dehydrated. So how can you sit here and say that we can and should believe and trust what we can't see?
DeleteI was saying who are we to say something isn't real just because we cant see it. I was saying most people have a hard time believing in faith because they only believe what they can see. I don't think you read the last sentence on my post. I never said when you cant see something its not real.
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DeleteFrancis Adirubasamy's statement in the Authors note, "I have a story that will make you beileve in God" automatically makes you question your beliefs of a higher power. I feel as if he uses this claim, to make you think, and keep you questioning everything you read. The story itself is incredible, in its way keeping the reader intrigued. Surving on the open ocean with nobody but your self is a true test of a God. This factor of the story is a statement for most most athiests.As Zach Heath was saying, The author continues to argue the fact of believing god, by using great examples late in the story, such as Pi stating "Love is hard to beileve, as any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask any scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any beilever." Basicly as stated by Pi, things are only real if you beileve they are real. This applies to the same idea of God, if you believe he is real, then he is for you.
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Pi lives a seemingly paradoxical life believing in three separate religions. He is told by everyone around him that it is impossible to follow all three of these religions faithfully, but he does just that, despite the criticism. Pi was a religious person ever since he was little and religion was a big part of his life; so it is obvious that he would turn to God during the hardest trial he would endure in his life. Throughout part two Pi attributes his miraculous survival to the presence of Richard Parker and God. At one point Pi vowed to himself he would fight to the end and said “yes, so long as God is with me, I will not die. Amen” (Martel 186) Whether you believe the story with the animals or not, you can see that the belief in god helped Pi through the 227 days and survive as he vowed he would with God’s help. Although some believe his journey was too fantastic to believe. Many also believed that he could not truly follow three religions, and yet, he did. Presented with two possible stories to believe in, you must take “a leap of faith” either way because Pi and perhaps Richard Parker were the only witnesses, so to believe in either story is still to believe in something that cannot be proved.
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Here's a thought that doesn't necessarily fit into any of the 4 specific questions. Richard Parker goes away once Pi is safe and no longer needs him. When the 2 Japanese men joke with him to watch out for Richard Parker, Pi says that he's hidden where no one will find him. Do we all have a "Richard Parker" within us? Is this the measure of madness that will emerge when we need it to survive in times of great stress? Pi also says that R.P saved his life, but at the cost of another. The killing of the cook?
ReplyDeleteI think the cost of another is his mother. I think that his mother dying brought out his bengal tiger. And yes I think RP is his measure of madness because when he is thinking about killing him, letting him die, or training him I belive that was his own will. Did he want to kill himself? Just let himself die? Or should he fight and try everything to survive? In other words his plan number 7 was, "I will not die. I refuse it. I will make it through this nightmare. I will beat the odds, as great as they are. I have survived so far, miraculously. Now I will turn miracle into routine. The amazing will be seen every day. I will put in all the hard work necessary. Yes, so long as God is with me, I will not die. Amen."
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DeleteYes I believe that we all have a measure of madness within us. It is a theory that has been prevlant in nature since the begining of time. Mothers kill to protect their young and will do whatever it takes to insure that they are protected. Just as Pi’s mother told him to go to the other lifeboat when the cook killed his mother and beheaded her. We all do things in desperate situations that we cant explain just as when mothers find the enouromous amount of strength to lift up a car when there childs life is in danger. When Pi says that Richard Parker saved his life, but at the cost of another I believe it was two people. The most obvious being the cook, but if you look deeper into the story I believe you could also argue Pis mother suffered as well. She saw her own son transform into a carnivore, and watched Richard Parker take over Pi’s body in order to survive. She watched his Indian customs fall when he ate bread with the cook, and feasted upon fish.
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Yes, I do believe we all have a little of Richard parker in us, it's that "measure of madness" that comes in time of great stress of panic. Any person in a situation, when desperate enough can do incredible things. As Erin said above, how mothers have been known to flip over a car when their child is in danger, that is the measure of madness in them. In the novel Pi eats human flesh to stay alive, and goes agaisnt everything he has been brought up to believe by eating meat. Pi's measure of madness was Richard Parker, and he did what he had to do to stay alive. We all have a little of Richard Parker in us, it just takes a desperate situation for him to come alive.
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I believe that all of us have a Richard Parker in us; although, many of us will hopefully never be in a situation to the extent of rousing our measure of madness. Richard Parker did emerge to save Pi’s life, for he did what was necessary to live when Pi was hesitant to change his morals. Richard Parker saved his life by making Pi survive when he was ready to give up. Unfortunately, it wasn’t until after his mother was unjustly killed by the cook that his measure of madness started. Now that Pi is safe, he no longer needs Richard Parker, but “Richard Parker has stayed with me. I've never forgotten him…I miss him. I still see him in my dreams. They are nightmares mostly, but nightmares tinged with love. Such is the strangeness of the human heart.”
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In Francis Adriuasamy note "I have a story that will make you believe in God" I believe that Pi's journey makes us as the readers check our own faith in God. Although Pi tells a very hard story to believe he was the only one there nobody else saw what happened just like no living person has ever seen God. "Love is hard to believe, ask a any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask any scientist. God is hard to bilieve, ask any biliever. What is your problem with hard to believe?" When Pi states this it is making me and I agree with him that logic should not be the driving force behind what we beieve in.
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At the end of Life of Pi, The author Martel tells two stories leaving the reader to determine which one is the most interesting and which one is the real one. Martel does this not to make the reader feel more important but rather to prove to the reader that it does not really matter which one is which. They both have the same major facts and still require the reader or listener to take the author's word for it. This leads to the lesson that it does not matter how the story unfolded as much as the lessons that were taught through out the story. The reason that this book is so popular is that there is not just one message. There are many messages all woven together to create a complex story that teaches you new things every time you read it. A few of the most important deal with the relation of Faith versus facts. Through out the story he uses his faith in god as a example but at the end the two stories perfectly exemplify this because they show that you still have to believe the teller of the story. The main theme that sometimes it doesn't matter the facts of a story as long as you get the message and the lessons inside.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, Martel’s central message is that people want to escape from facts, logic, and reality when it’s too painful to accept reality. Pi had a traumatic experience surviving on his own after watching his mother be killed by the chef and then having to kill him; this left him as the last survivor in the middle of the ocean. In Pi’s circumstances, he needed to escape his situation to continue surviving, so he invented new “characters” and a “plot” similar to his experience. Beliefs, faith, and myth got Pi through his tragedy. Pi’s measure of madness was too much for him to accept; therefore, he created Richard Parker to separate himself from the madness. Unfortunately the true story is the one without animals. Pi believes that it doesn’t matter which story is true because he still ends up alone. The question after both stories is “’which is the better story?’” (317). The fictional story with the animals is what Pi wants to be true, so I think after all his suffering, he deserves to tell whichever version he wants to tell.
Alexa Lua
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In the Author's not, Adriuasamy says that, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." As the reader goes through the novel, there are more and more amazing things that Pi goes through. Even though Pi is in this terrible situation, and has lost all his family, he notes throughout his story that he still feels the presence of God and he still believes. This is what is truly amazing to me that someone who experienced something this awful is still able to keep a strong faith and strong beliefs. I believe that Pi's faith was something that ended up saving his life. Adriuasamy's claim i believe is absolutely true because it shows that faith can save people and by Pi surviving it is a true miracle.
ReplyDelete1. In Francis Adirubasamy’s statement to the author, the theme of religious belief is introduced, along with the idea that this story could possibly change your outlook on life. When it comes down to it in life, you’re the only one who can change your standing beliefs and faith system. Whether or not you’re the agnostic on his deathbed who misses the better story (64), or a person of faith, is the question that is sparked by Adirubasamys statement. His claim is true in relation to how much faith in the unprovable the reader has. At the end of part three when Pi is speaking to the Japanese men he told them "Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask and scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer." (297) when they had a hard time understanding how his story could be true. Like choosing which of Pi’s two stories to believe, having faith in God ultimately is at the mercy of the reader.
ReplyDeleteFrancis Adirubasamy tells the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." The story is mix of myth and truth which events show how faith kept Pi Patel alive. As a reader I saw Richard Parker represents Pi’s faith. Pi says, “I am grateful it’s the plain truth: without Richard parker, I wouldn’t be alive today to tell you my story.”(Martel 207) It’s Richard Parker who calmed him down and gave him reason to live. Without Richard Parker, without his faith he would surely have given up on life and died. This novel got me to believe in God more by showing me to keep Faith.Quentin
ReplyDeleteIn regards to the first question, I think Adirubasamy's claim was a bit of an over-generalization. If talking about God is a strictly Christian sense, then I believe this statement fails to embody what the story is about. The story was about how truth is relative, that nothing can be proven. Seeing the world only through a skeptical and reasonable lens means one misses out on the better story, according to the author. By saying "God" in the aforementioned statement, I believe he is using it in a general sense that encompasses all religions, all gods, and all beliefs. In a way, the statement may as well be, "I have a story that will make you believe." and still carry the same message. What that belief is isn't important according to the author.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Casey that Adirubasamy's claim was not about the "Christian" God; however, I take it as God. As Pi mentions when he tries to explain his diversity in religious practice, "that would mean there's only one nation in the sky," insinuating that there is one God. By practicing 3 different religions, Pi doesn't try and make us believe in a specific being, but that God isn't restricted to any religion. God is the "Measure of Madness" in everyone, in a sense, that keeps them going.
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4. In Life Of Pi, the Light vs Dark theme is used throughout much of Part 2. At one point, Pi is gazing up at the starry night sky and at that point realizes that his problem, his strandedness on the lifeboat, is such a miniscule and finite problem in such a vast world. However, during the day time Pi is constantly worrying about his abandonment, as it is the most important, and only, thing in his life at the time. Light and Dark share opposites themes in this book because at the beginning of his oceanic journey, Pi exclaims that the sea at night time frightens him, and the unknown that is beneath him brings great fear. It is only in the day time that Pi feels comfort, for he can see what is going on around him, above him, and beneath him in the sea. As the journey progresses, though, Pi finds more and more comfort in the darkness. The star filled sky allows him to let all troubles and fears subside, as he realizes that his problem is nothing when compared to the vast scheme of things in the world. Contradictory to that, it is in the day when Pi starts to worry. Instead of the light brigning Pi a comfort it used to, it shows him of all the things he must worry about and fear: Richard Parker, the vast ocean, limited supplies, and a lack of food and water. Therefore, the binary opposites of light vs dark play a key role in Pi's journey, as the seem to switch roles almost completely as his journey progresses.
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ReplyDeleteWhat I believe that Mr. Adirubasamy could have meant by his claim of "I have a story that will make you believe in God,"is that although such a phenomenal story and it’s unlikeliness make it unreasonable to believe, a part of the reader wants it to be true. Finding answers with the thought that “Reason is the very best tool kit,” is what has lead to what we know today, which is based on facts and evidence. Where we find ourselves satisfied and comfortable with this notion. This most impossible story tests what people believe; just as Pi’s ordeal tested his faith. Both tales that Pi has told do not have substantial evidence to prove all that could have really happened on that life boat to make it believable to those he shared his story with. Back to Mr. Adirubasamy’s claim that this story “will make one believe in God” is that it provides a jumping block from which to take a leap of faith.
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ReplyDeleteWhen Adirubasamy makes the claim of a story that will make you believe in god I didn’t understand how at first a story of a man lost a sea has to deal with religion. However after futher contemplation of the novel I began to piece together the puzzle. Throughout the novel there are instances of agnostics vs. athesits. In which agnostics are looked down apon and ridculed for their life philosophy “Whereas the agnostic, if he stays true to his reasonable self, if he stays beholded to dry, yeastless factuality, might try to explain the warm light bathing him by saying, ‘Possibly a f-f-failing oxygenation of the b-b-brain.” For when we put faith we begin to create our own religion. Some might argue that athesits are without religion, but they are without god. They have more faith than any other religion I believe, because they have the faith to say no to all naysayers who says there is a god. Just as in Part 3, Pi makes the Japense men believe in the animal story because he instills faith within them, thus they find God through faith; and Pi’s story of being lost at sea proves that there is a God.
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I believe that Martel’s central message in Life of Pi is that no matter whom you are or what you believe you can do anything if you put your mind to it. Pi was stranded at sea for 227 days and without his character and inspiration of Richard Parker, he would not have made it out alive. The author gives us two different stories to choose from at the end: one containing animals and more sensitive while the other containing human being was extremely graphic and gruesome. We can pick which story we believe to be realistic, the human story, but in reality it does not make a difference whether we hear about Pi’s mom being stabbed to death or an orangutan killed by a hyena. Both are ways of life and cause pain for others.
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I respectfully disagree with Alex that "it doesn't matter who you are or what you believe you can do anything." Pi tells us that "some of us give up on life with only a resigned sigh. Others fight a little, then lose hope. Still others - and I am one of those - never give up" (Martel). In both the animal story and the human story, we see an example of these kind of people who do give up. The cook, after killing Pi's mother, let's himself die. Richard Parker almost gives up swimming to the life boat in the beginning of Part 2. Surely any and every castaway has always "set their minds" to surviving, but it doesn't always happen. Mostly they lose their minds, which some might say Pi does a few times. However, I do agree that it doesn't matter which story is true; everyone deals with pain and suffering in their own way, and everyone interprets events and stories in a way that makes sense to themselves.
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ReplyDeleteAdirubasamy's statement early in the book "I have a story that will make you believe in God." made me as a reader wonder how a story about a boy who is lost at sea could convice a person to believe in God. Throughout his tale he shows the ulitimate test of a humans will to live. This brought on the idea of the measure of madness and what an individual is willing to do for survival. This impossible story tests what people believe; just as Pi’s ordeal tested his faith. Both tales that Pi shares with the reader do not have substancial evidence. It is with faith in the story that we can believe that his voyage actually happened. As for Pi what contributed to his willingness to survive came from the presence of God. Even through horrible circumstances Pi survives. I believe this was the ultimate sign that could convice a reader to "believe in God."
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In Life of Pi, Martel uses the theme of light verse dark to help us through Pi’s struggle. Pi’s struggle gets worse at night, when it’s dark his sense of calm vanishes with the sun. His journey in the life boat Pi says that the sea at night time frightens him. It is only in the day time that Pi feels comfortable with the sea, he gets food and water from it but it still becomes his worst enemy when it’s dark. Even though he is scared when it’s dark, the appearance of the stars brings him hope. Hope that things can be there even when he can’t see them, i.e. god.
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Macie Burkett
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1.When Francis Adirubamy says “I Have a story that will make you believe in God” the author right away isinterested in the story. since i read the whole book, I am given the choice to believe in the animal story or the human story, they are both the same but in reality different in a weird way. While one is with animals and mystical and the other is more realistic and understandable, forcing you to want to know more and wanting to see it for yourself. Most people claim that seeing is believing. but when people believe in god theyre initially feel that believing is knowing. If you can believe Pi’s original story about richard parker than you are subject to believing in god.
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ReplyDeleteI feel that Martel’s message becomes evident at the end of the book when Pi is telling his two stories. The reader figures out that there are two stories of his journey, one with the animals and one without the animals. We can only assume that one of the stories is true. The question becomes, which story is actually true? Through my eyes I think Martel left it to the reader to decide which story they wanted to believe. It doesn’t really matter which story was true because the outcome of both stories was the same. I believe that logic vs. myth is something that people have to over come to believe in something. Religious viewpoints are all different because of the different levels of belief in God between people. Some would say there is not direct evidence of God. Just like Pi’s story there is not direct evidence to which the story is true but it is up to the individual to what extent they want to believe.
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ReplyDeleteAfter being told that “the island” prepared us for part 3, Martel’s carnivorous island is an escape from reality and a sense of hope for us (Pi). It helps us take in the discomforting facts fed to us by the author and how the animals were actually his ship-mates. Martel’s overall message was portrayed as being able to choose your own path with a logical or faith-backed position. With Pi’s substitution of characters, he was able to escape from his brutal reality and put himself into a safe haven such as the “carnivorous-algae island” filled with green plants to lure Pi in, being the color of India.
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ReplyDelete2. the central message in my opinion is everythimg can be changed into whatever you want to believe becaue if you believe it is true then it is, i believe the human story because its more realistic to what i believe, but it doesnt matter because it only matters what you believe to be true, most people believe that something that is unbelievable isnt true but in reality its all about what you believe it could be anything at all, if you believe the most unbelievable things its still true becaue you believe it.
ReplyDelete2. Throughout all of Life of Pi, the obvious theme that was constantly played upon was the idea of Faith vs. Logic. Even the two versions of the stories are the parallels between Faith and Logic. The animal story requires a level of faith in order to believe any of it, and the human story is also much more logical and would make more sense. With this constant battle between opposites, I believe that Martel’s overall message is that there is no right or wrong answer between the two. Both faith and logic live together in a world where there is never a time where one is the better pick. For example there was the story with the man that walked on the ocean, attempting to understand god. Eventually this man came upon a boy who wanted to move all of the ocean into a little hole, the man injected by saying it was impossible and the boy just replied, “and so it is with god.”(Martel 317) We will never truly understand God and we will never truly understand science, this world held together with opposites was Martel’s overall message and the reason he involved two different stories, both of which we will never know is the correct one. Kyle Woo
ReplyDeleteI do not think it truly maters which story the reader chooses. Martel's central message is to try to get his readers to believe in God and faith. He uses this somewhat fictional story to keep the readers attention. Again and again throughout the story the author proves there is a higher power keeping PI sane and alive! Also, I feel that in the animal story the figure of God seemed to be Richard Parker not PI. "Truly I do. I love you, Richard Parker. If I didn't have you now, I don't know what I would do. I don't think I would make it. No, I wouldn't. I would die of hopelessness."(Martel 236) Richard Parker seems to always be there when Pi needs him; he pushes Richard Parker away but then accepts him and realizes he can't live without him. I believe the symbol of Richard Parker is the authors way of revealing God to the reader.
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I really like the idea of Richard Parker being the God symbol if the human story was the "real" one. Although it is very arguable that Richard Parker is Pi's "measure of madness," it also can transfer over to the divinity inside him. If the human story was in fact true, I'm sure Mr. Patel didn't create his other story thinking, "Hm, should I make Richard Parker represent me or God?" but instead, did what felt real to him. So Richard Parker could, in fact, represent more than one aspect of Pi's unfortunate journey. Pi, himself, in the animal story, could represent his faith, while Richard Parker represents God himself: "The Lord commanded us to... fear the Lord our God, so that we might always prosper and be kept alive.."(The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:24).
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ReplyDeleteThe paradoxical pair of light vs. dark was used a lot throughout PI's 227 days at sea. He proves constantly that light is God and that dark is evil. When Pi is at sea and he can barely move it is dark he cannot see anything he wants to give up until he opens his eyes to the stars in the sky and he sees the light. Immediately, Pi is filled with hope and the will to continue on for survival. Also with the algae island, the light of day shows a beautiful island with food to eat and shade to cool him. When night comes the island becomes acidic and in a way evil. The island kills and shows again that darkness brings evil. With Martel's central message being faith and revealing God I believe that the paradoxical pair of light vs. dark relates.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the main purpose of algae island is to make obvious Martel's paradoxical pair or light vs. dark. He clearly shows light vs. dark as being good vs. evil. Its ties together with his overall purpose of trying to show God to the reader because with algae island being good during daytime he is proving that light is good. And if light is good and God is light then God is good. Also I think Martel uses the island as a crazy unreal part of the story to show that most people only believe what is considered reasonable or normal. In order to believe in God you must be able to believe without reason. Martel tries to prove that believing is seeing not the other way around.
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ReplyDeleteTo find the answer to which story to choose as truth, one must consider what they base their answer off. Through the dual stories, Martel is showing that all people have “myths” in their lives. The stories that Pi tell, with all the animals or people are based off of “facts”: what is possible and impossible. We all have stories in our lives, and what we can believe or choose not to is our decision. Pi states “doesn’t the telling of something always become a story?” (Martel 302). Martel is saying to step away from what we know to be truth and simply be willing to believe. Have faith and put your beliefs on the line. Do not just hold onto that which you know through facts only "dry, yeast less factuality" (Martel 302) but instead combine both fact and what you inherently know to be truth to believe what you believe. Our “truths” define who we are and the decisions we make; therefore, we must know our truth to support what we believe.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that Pi’s story makes everyone analyze his or her faith in God. No one has seen God in person or saw Pi on his journey, but people still believe that the two existed. On the other hand people have a hard time believing in God just as they do with Pi’s story. To believe is left up to the reader and Francis is trying to have the reader believe in God through his saying "I have a story that will make you believe in God." You either chose the story with Pi and Richard Parker or the story with Pi and the humans. If you chose to believe Pi’s story of the animals then you can just as easily chose to believe in God.
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I agree with what Jordan is saying. To believe in something is a personal preference to each individual and throughout this novel the reader is challenged with Pi’s thoughts on religion but then also begins recognizing his/her own thoughts on the matter once we are told the details of the second story that is brought up in part 3. Pondering questions about which story to believe is true relates to putting faith in a religious belief. Deciding to believe in the factual evidence that is more realistic in the story with humans is the way many people decide to believe in the world. They see tangible evidence and find that to be true to them, while there are others who are willing to take that leap of faith for something that they believe will have a greater outcome. Thus the animal story leaving Pi to place all of his faith in the hands of God and to trust that he would get out of his suffering condition. Whether to believe the mythical or realistic story is all up to the reader and that’s exactly how Martel wanted it to be, a choice between faith vs. reason.
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2. Although Martel’s central message is hidden, it has been under our nose from the start of the book; it doesn’t matter what version of the story you believe in because they both take you to the same place in the end. “When she first heard of Hare Krishnas, she didn't hear right. She heard "Hairless Christians", and that is what they were to her for many years. When I corrected her, I told her that in fact she was not so wrong; that Hindus, in their capacity for love, are indeed hairless Christians, just as Muslims, in the way they see God in everything, are bearded Hindus, and Christians, in their devotion to God, are hat-wearing Muslims.”(62) Religion is just a larger scale version of the book Life of Pi; believing in one religion provides the same views as any other does. To be a Christian teaches you to love God, as does being a Hindu, a Muslim, or a Jew. Life takes you down many different roads, and most lead you to the same place in the end.
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ReplyDeleteI believe the main point that Martel is trying to make is reflected in Pi's philosophy of faith. From the beginning, Pi is described as a very spiritual person who is open to ideas from all different religions, even atheism. Pi says that, "atheists are my brothers and sisters of a different faith." (35) Whereas, he says that agnostics bother him because all they do is doubt. "To choose doubt as a philosophy of life is akin to choosing immobility as a means of transportation." (36) Pi talks about his faith in God giving him strength to carry on throughout his 227 days at sea and I believe that this is the the point Martel is trying to make. If you have faith in yourself, you will be able to accomplish that which would otherwise be impossible.
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ReplyDeleteAdirubadasamy’s claim that he has “…a story that will make you believe in God” portrays to Life of Pi because Pi needed a reason to survive. Such a strong statement makes you want to believe his story. Pi turned to God when his measure of madness was roused: “’Solitude began. I turned to God. I survived.’”(311). After reading, you can tell Pi wouldn’t have been able to make it through his journey without God, so there is no room for doubting his faith if you believe either story. This assertion also pulls readers in. Adirubadasamy is practically challenging his readers to try not to believe in God. This claim is true, for it forces its readers to choose to believe in at least one version of Pi’s journey, both of which include God. This statement claim has readers anticipating for when in the story they will believe in God. This claim is somewhat true, for it made Martel believe in God. Imagining Pi’s experience you can only expect that you would believe in God as well after such a journey.
Alexa Lua
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ReplyDelete“Literature is the question minus the answer,”(Barthes) Martel uses this method in his novel Life of Pi in order to explain two completely different yet similar stories while leaving the option up to the reader to decide which story is “true”. The way that Martel set up this novel allows his readers to receive the message that the line that lies between whether something is real or make-believe depends on the person that is reading. There is no “true” story there is merely a controversy between myth vs. reality that is left unresolved. Each story that Martel explains has the ability to be true, what lies behind this is the individual. Each reader is left with option to choose which story they believe to be true solely based on their own beliefs.
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I totally agree with Carissa Cotter on her argument where each person at the end of the book gets to pick which story they believe. However I believe it really doesn’t matter which story you believe because in the end of both stories they end up in the same place. When Carissa mentions that each story that Martel explains has the ability to be true, what lies behind this is the individual. I agree, I do think its up the individual to decide, but I also think it reflects back to believing in god on if you do or don’t.
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I think the true story is the story of the people. I liked the one with animals more because it was less grotesque. Animals killing animals is a lot less disturbing than people killing people. Or people eating people. I believe Martel made up and gave us the animal version first for that reason. If I had known this story were about cannibalism, I would have been a lot less likely to read the whole book. It definitely does not matter which story is true, you choose to believe whichever story you want to believe. But the fact that Martel brings up truth vs. myth in the book makes me question whether it does matter which version you chose. I think Martel wanted us to question the entire book, but not just the book life. I think he wants us to looks beyond the truth to find some sort of myth. And realize that The truth I s in the myth.
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ReplyDeleteIn the author's note, Francis Adirubasamy says he has a story "that will make you believe in God." I believe that his claim was true because with all the events that happened, you have to have the faith to believe that they are actually true. Pi says “only because you’ve never seen them” (370) with this quote you have to have faith to believe that someone or something is actually watching over you and making sure things are okay. I believe that Pi wouldnt have made it through his journey without having faith in God, it gave him something to believe in and have faith that he was going to make it.
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I agree with your argument because the claim the author made about having a story that makes you believe in God has to do with having faith. It has to do with believing in things that can't always be proven or seen. You can't always use reason to explain things because some things don't always have reason and logic to back them up. The quote used explains having faith and believing in the unknown. I think that the claim the author made was correct and was supported through the story he told.
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ReplyDeleteIn the authors note, Francis Adirubasamy states that "he has a story that will make you believe in God." I feel that the author's claim was true because in the story events happened that couldn't be explained or seen and you just had to believe; the same way someone believes in God. Pi says "I am grateful. It's the plain truth: without Richard Parker, I wouldn't be alive today to tell you my story." Richard Parker gave him hope and faith to keep going. Sometimes there's no explanation for things and you just have to believe that they exist.
Emily Morrow
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I completely agree with your argument especially when you said "Sometimes there's no explanation for things and you just have to believe that they exist." Crazy things happen everyday with no explanation; you either have to believe that the event, good or bad, happened for a reason, or think that it was a coincidence. However, when you think that it was a coincidence, you're just being a little close minded and just don't want to think that the event that occurred had a meaning behind it. I'd have to admit though, there have been many instances in my life that seemed to be simple coincidences and don't really think that there's a meaning in them. Kind of a paradox, maybe...
DeleteBrett Kessler
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ReplyDeleteMartel uses binary opposition in many ways throughout the story. One predominant way is faith v. reason. You have to have faith to believe in the things that happened in the story. The Japanese men that interview Pi use reason to support the way they feel; they try to find a logical answer for the events that took place. Pi argues his point about having faith very well. "The world isn't just the way it is. It is how we understand it, no? And in understanding something, we bring something to it, no? Doesn't that make life a story?"
Emily Morrow
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2. I feel Martel’s central message is that we are often are too reasonable in our lives and lack faith. Like Pi states, we can “lack imagination and miss the better story.” (Martel 64) Martel is trying to show that it’s not the facts that matter but what we choose believe and it is those beliefs that dictate our lives. By being too reasonable we can miss the “better story” and lose out on a lot in life. When we instead choose to take a leap of faith we are often rewarded in our lives. I believe this is reflected in two different stories at the end of the novel. One requires us to take that leap of faith, while the other is more reasonable but has a much more gruesome outcome than the prior.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the purpose of the algae island is for comparision between light and dark for example when its light outside Pi feel safer because he can see all of his surroundings and that is like God is in his presences but when its dark he is all alone and can not see whats around him so that is like when God is not there to protect him God you must be able to believe past the beilievable to understand what Yann Martel is trying to say.
Joey Muscarella
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ReplyDeleteWhat I believe that Mr. Adirubasamy means when he states, "I have a story that will make you believe in God" is that Yan Martel wants to get the readers thinking about how the story could go, and since it uses animals that at the end we find out have the qualities of the humans and vice versa it causes a reaction that causes some questioning. We all know that Pi was out in the middle of the ocean on a life boat for 227 days, and we have the choice of two stories to chose from. On page 63 there is a quote stating, "The presence of God is the finest of rewards." I belive that Mr. Adirubasamy uses that saying in the very beginning to be able to bring the readers into the many times that Pi uses any of his three religions, and also because in the beginning Pi states how he had been introduced to the religions, he may have been preparing the readers to be able to see this from a different point of view.
Kendall Larson
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ReplyDeleteI believe that Martels central message of the story was to see if the readers would pay attention to small details, because there were many times when there were things repeated in the book. I also believe that part of the message was at the end to see what some of the readers would believe. Now because of human nature most would probably believe that the second story that Pi told would be more true then the original animal story. Now for me that is not the case because in nature there can be times in which the lion needs to be tamed, but also, when was it normal for humans to eat other humans especially own family members. It is also hard for me to believe the second story because Pi does get over being a vegetarian, but would he really eat another human? For me it was easier to believe the first story because it is possible to "train" an animal to come to respect the human.
Kendall Larson
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Ahhh, but in the parallel story of the people on the boat, if Richard Parker was the "madness" or the animal side that Pi resorted to in order to survive, doesn't it also make sense to think of the "training" or mastering of R.P. could represent Pi's efforts to keep his "madness" in check? In other words, Pi couldn't let Richard Parker take over. If that happened he may never have been able to come back to his human side. Isn't this what happened to the cook? Remember, too, that the younger an animal is, the more "trainable." Pi was young, and could perhaps "train" his wild side to not take over, more easily than if he were a grown man. Also, whatever you think the island represented, this was a place where Pi becomes afraid that Richard Parker will move beyond his control, that he will not longer remain the omega. This is why he begins training him again. So, what does this mean? And what insight does this give us about the island? Why would the animal go wild?
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ReplyDeleteIn part two of Life of Pi, Martel writes Pi’s experience on the algae island. I believe this island represented Pi’s entire experience while he was lost at sea. For example in the third part of the book Pi tells a more believable yet heart wrenching version of his experience at sea, in which he recalls to be hopeful of being rescued, then tolerable almost happy when his mother and the chef began to laugh and get along, and finally tragic when a fight between the chef and his mother ends deadly. This resembles his experience on the island. First he arrives hopeful finding food, and fresh water lifting his spirits, then he becomes comfortable with the thought of staying on the island. Until he discovers a terrifying truth that left feeling with no choice but to leave it all behind.
~Abril Navarro~
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The central message of martels book Life of Pi was to get the reader to think for themselves. Pi hints many times throught the book that just because you cant see something, doesn't mean it's not there. He attempts to get the reader to think for themselves and not live an ignorant life wihtout at least thinking of believing in the unknown. The story is a fantasy that at the end of the book Pi tells other people about his adventures and they reject the fact that it ever could have happend. This ends the book leaving the reader to choose as to weather or not the story could have been possible.
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2. I believe that the central message of the story is that people focus to much on only what they can prove and it hinders their ability to believe. When he presents the question of which story is "true", people will automatically think that the second was true just because they can make more logical sense of it. But the real question is, does it matter which is true? I think that the main message of the story is that it doesn't matter which is true, but which is the better story, and that if we live our whole lives only believing the story that we can make the most sense out of we miss out on life.
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ReplyDeleteWhen Francis Adirubasamy tells the author “I Have a story that will make you believe in God” it gives the idea that God or some higher power lead Pi through his journey safely. I think that Mr. Adirubasamy means that the story is so unbelievable that no one could believe this story and doubt the existence of some type of God. In many parts of the story Pi should have been dead and it is almost impossible for him to survive the things he did. People hear this story and want to know the reason for him staying alive and an easy answer is to say God saved him. If one believes that a loving God was watching over Pi and keeping him safe then the story becomes easier to believe. Besides the miracle of Pi’s survival, the fact that he belongs to three different religions and therefore believes in a number of heavenly beings could sway people towards thinking that a God or Gods exist. When you combine Pi’s faith with his extraordinary survival it might make some believe in God.
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ReplyDeleteMartel brings the algae island into the novel Life of Pi to resemble God. During the day the island is pleasant and fulfills all of Pi's needs, correspondingly Pi stated "religion is light". The Island can be tied into faith because of how it brings Pi peace. Both the islands resources and faith in God keep Pi alive and fighting. Another simialrity between the two is most will find that the island is unbelievable and some will compare that to religion. There is no true evidence of either but it doesn't mean that people will believe them any less.
Blake Covey
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Martel’s story is, until the final few chapters, hard to swallow. The ferocious animals and island that eats beings is hard to wrap our minds around. But when it’s all said and done the island and animals are not the important parts they are merely details to the story and message Martel is getting across. In my opinion, I think that the larger meaning of choosing the “better story” Martel is giving us a chance to make the story our own in a way. Basically he wants us to be able to control how we think the story ended. I think that Martel did this because he feels people should be able to do that with their own lives. Everyone should have a choice of what they want to believe. Pi for example with choosing three different religions. I think since Pi was able to have faith in 3 different religions, the reader can choose to believe in both stories. There may not be truth in either story. It has an existentialist view about it for the reader because the truth cannot be found in the story.
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2. I believe that Yann Martel’s message was that animals and humans (when under pressure) are much the same. Part 1 is almost entirely describing the behaviors of animals but throughout Part 2, as he struggles more and more with survival, Pi begins to express what the book refers to as a “measure of madness”. Originally (in Part 1) the narrator refers to this measure of madness only in the context of animals but with Part 2 comes the merging of animal and man. For instance, in chapter 91 Pi describes the butchering of the Frenchman and his subsequent cannibalism; any person not under the pressure to survive would be horrified that Pi resorted to cannibalism, with the only explanation being that he resorted to a more primal state of mind or stark madness. Furthermore, the interview with the Japanese representatives helps to solidify the metaphor of man and animal when the representatives make the parallel between the paths of the animals and the paths of humans in each of Pi’s stories.
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ReplyDeleteWhen Mr. Adirubasamy say that he has "a story that will make you believe in God", I think that he was trying to get the audience sort of excited about the story so that they would want to read/listen to it. To an extent, the claim is true because throughout the story, many outrageous and coincidental events occurred such as when Pi was blind on the boat and ran into another lonely blind man in the middle of the ocean; and the whole island thing with finding teeth bundled up in a ball of leaves in a tree and the carnivorous island. If you were to know absolutely nothing about religion or God, it would definitely make you believe a little bit.
Brett Kessler
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ReplyDeleteAdirubasamy's claim that "i have a story that will make you believe in god" can be viewed in multiple perspectives. First it could be viewed as a way to take in different religious stand points a Pi explores multiple religions and takes a liking in all of them. I think Pi is not trying to persuade us into religion but to show us that each religion has the same intentions through different ways and we need to be understanding of that. Another way the claim can be viewed is by the fact of how crazy Pi's story is. No one knows if its people in the boat or if its animals, either way the story is tragic and people would tend to take a liking in god under Pi's circumstances. Pi believes that god is by his side watching over him and helping him to safety, and proof of this is when Pi talks about the stars at night are so bright and how he feels more comfortable then.
Taylor Thomas
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ReplyDeleteI feel that Martel’s central message involves belief vs. reason. Reason is what people turn to the most. We more willingly turn to reason because our goal is to make sense of everything. But in the case of Life of Pi, Martel gives us two different accounts of Pi’s story. Mr. Okamoto and Mr. Chiba find themselves struggling with the notion that they can’t find a reason to believe in what Pi has told them, because they want a story that makes sense for the answers they’re looking for. The first is thought to exceed believability because of the lack of evidence to account for certain aspects of Pi’s ordeal, while the other is supposed to make more sense than the first version of how he survived for 227 days at sea. In the author’s note we’re told that this is a story which will “make us believe in God.” So with this in mind we try to analyze every little bit of the novel to make sense of Mamaji’s claim and Pi’s stories. It doesn’t matter which story is true because what Martel is really trying to do is to get the reader to stop making sense of everything.
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ReplyDeleteThe algae island Pi speaks of in Part 2 throws the reader a curve ball. It came out of no here and at the time of reading it, it didn’t make much sense. After finishing the book and looking back to the mysterious island Pi washed up upon, It now draws a deeper meaning. This island wasn’t just a strange land where weird thing happen, it was an island that symbolized how things may seem fine, but in fact they are not as fine as they seemed. The island may have symbolized rebirth as well. During the day time, the island was full of resources that helped Pi get food and water. By night fall the island turned into an acidic land that dissolved all the fish in the pond. The day time shows how everything may be too good to be true. In the light hours Pi saw everything that was there and was able to observe with his eyes the situation he was in. Just like on the life boat; he was able to feel more at comfort knowing he was able to see what was where. At night on the island, was dark and Pi had to put faith in himself to get through the night. As on the boat, Pi was in fear of night and put his faith in God get him through the night. As days went by, the island continued to replenish itself of its natural resources and brought hope that things will get better.
Austin Howerton
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I agree with Austin because at first when starting the Island chapter I thought that Pi was going to become safer and be able to find good eating resources, but instead I came to find out that during the night or darkness the island was dangerous. It started to bring questions to thought because, really is a tiger going to run back to a lifeboat if there is good food on the island? With this chapter read then it was off to part three, and the time when Pi reveales a second story, and only at the end after I could relate animal characters to human characters did I realize when the book asked, who were the meerkats? This seems strange but I have really been thinking and believe they might be the reason that I believe the animal story more then the human story that was told. I believe this because I do not believe that Pi being a long time vegetarian that he would eat a human, but I do think that he would eat and animal.
DeleteKendall Larson
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ReplyDeleteIn the "Author's Note," when Adirubasamy tells the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God," he ties together the central theme of "Life of Pi": although there may not be a reasonable explanation for the occurrence of certain events, sometimes a person must accept the outcome simply based on faith. After Pi discloses both versions of his story to the two Japanese men, he asks them which they felt was a better story. Pleased with their answer, Pi responds "And so it goes with God." Through this metaphor, Martel expresses the wonder of faith and that when placed in the right situation all animals resort to their God-given "Measure of Madness". For example, Richard Parker represented Pi's animalistic "Measure of Madness" which disappeared as they reached safety in Mexico.
When Mr. Adirubasamy said he had a story to make you believe in god he was trying to grab the readers attention.As you read the story it makes you question many things and take your view on them because in the end we dont know if was people or animals, either of the stories showed Pi's strenght to overcome and his faith to keep hope and know their is something bigger then us. when put in those hard circumstances it is comforting to have the belief in god because just like the stars religion is viewed as lightness and a hope for a better outcome.
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Roland Barthe's quotation of " Literature is the question, minus the answer" directly relates to Yan Martels diction that there is no definite answer to literature; all is left to the individuals understanding. This point becomes obvious in the conclusion of Life of Pi, when Pi offers two different stories to the young Japanese officials. Both stories are told from the perspective of the boy, one that consists of all animals, and the other consisting of humans. Although the men, at first, are skeptical of Pi's story of the animals, they come to realize that just because you haven't seen something, doesn't mean it wasn't a figment of your imagination. Both men are then left to interpret the stories as if both could be true, but the ultimate decision is to choose the story you rightfully have faith in.
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ReplyDeleteThroughout the story Pi goes through struggles, and the terrible tragedy of losing his family, even though he is in one of the worst situations he continuously states that he can still feel that God is with him, and he keeps his faith in God. In the Author's note, Adriuasamy says that, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." Even through his great stuggles were something that could make him stop believing in God, Pi kept his faith. That is amazing to me that Pi, and it gave him the will to survive and keep going. Adriuasamy's claim, "I have a story that will make you believe in God" is completely true in Pi's case, because without his faith in God he would have never survived, ultimately God saved him.
Madison Rockefeller
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ReplyDeleteWhen in the "Author's Note," I read Francis Adirubasamy tell the author, "I have a story that will make you believe in God." I did not expect what was about to be told. After finishing the novel, I understand why Adirunasamy said that. The very fact that Pi survived the journey could be considered a testament of God. At many times Pi's faith in God was tested. Even when Pi went through hard trails on his long journey at sea, with a 450 pound Bengal tiger, he protested, "The blackness would stir and eventually go away, and God would remain, a shining point of light in my heart. I would go on loving." Knowing that their was a God out there watching on Pi and keeping him alive, in such bad conditions, gave Pi hope in believing he could go on. The fact that Pi still believes in God after what happened to him would convince others to believe so too.
Emily Boberg
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ReplyDeleteMartel true meaning of the story is to help you find a stronger faith. In the real story Pi said, “Solitude began. I turned to God. I survived.”(Martel 391) God seems to play such a small part that’s why the mythical story is better. It connects with the reader more spiritually showing that his faith in God did play a major role in his survival. “I have a story that will make you believe in God.”(Martel IX) Martel put this in the author’s note to foreshadow to the books true meaning to build your faith in God. So it doesn’t matter which is true as long as the reader get Martel’s message.
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ReplyDeleteRoland Barthes said, “Literature is the question minus the answer.” In Life of Pi, Yann Martel raises so many questions that are not answered because he wants the reader to start questioning what he or she believes. Its not a matter of which story is true really, but more of the matter of what you choose to believe as an individual, fact vs. belief or myth vs. reality. I believe Martel’s central message is to get you questioning how you look at things in life, and questioning reality as a whole, because in Life of Pi, Pi believed the story with animals, while Mr. Okamoto and Mr. Chiba struggled to believe the story that Pi told, until they heard the story without the animals. Ultimately, Martel leaves it up to the reader and their own personal beliefs, fact vs. fiction, and I will choose fact every time.
Madison Rockefeller
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#2. the main idea that martel is trying to reveal to readers, is that people have different perspectives and interpretations of life and that all humans take in and use imagination, and have a different view of what reality realy is. The idea was to make the reader make a very difficult choice between two stories and which to believe. he made it a difficult decision by making the animal story harder and harder to believe as it progresses through part 2, even though it was a nicer story to believe. the choice comes down to whether you are a person to believe in the barely believable but "better story" or to believe in "dry yeastless factuality" with nearly unbearable violence. what is true or real is interpreted by the individual and it comes down to that one person reading the story to choose the secular logical-based idea or the spirtual faith-based idea.
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ReplyDeleteWhile Pi's initial story is compelling and entertaining, his second is much more rational and easier to accept; however, perhaps Martel's entire purpose was to point out the human mind's need for rationality. In most cases, humans are drawn to reason because it is simpler for them to understand and therefore accept, but, in "Life of Pi," the reader is left to decide which story is best: the one that sounds too fictional to be true, or the one that is rationally acceptable. Martel's offerings are similar to that of Neo Anderson's options in "The Matrix". If the reader chooses the "blue pill", he/she can take the easy way out and enjoy their peace of mind through the second story and be given the cold hard facts. But, if the reader were to choose the "red pill", he/she would immerse themselves in a story like no other. Both have the same ending and, while the reader might ask, "which story is true," it really doesn't matter because the entire point was to test whether or not the reader was ready to let go of the safety that Rationality and Reason provide.
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ReplyDeleteYann Martel gives us a chance to decide between two stories of how he survived the ocean. Personally, I believed the story of Pi being Richard Parker and the animals. It was definitely a better story, but to believe in it you havd to have an imagination and be able to look past logic and believe in personal thoughts. The story without animals may be true, but you could believe in the one about animals considering you have an imagination. After everything though it doesnt matter which story you believe in or whats right and whats wrong. It is what you believe in and your personal thoughts and outlook on life and its stories.
Paul Sanzz Block 3
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ReplyDeleteFrancis Adirubasamy's comment to the author "I have a story that will make you believe in god," sets the stage for this books purpose. Pi's two completely opposite stories directly tie into the commonly asked question, do you believe in faith or reason? In both of Pi's castaway stories. Pi relied on his prayers to his god(s) to help him survive. "I turned to God. I survived." (Martel 311) Pi's belief in god gave him the strength to push through starvation, gruesome killing, and depression. The truthfulness of Adirubasamy's opening statement is based on the reader's opinion and belief. What makes these two stories capturing is the chance for the reader to participate in the meaning of the message in the book.
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ReplyDeleteI beleive the purpose of the surreality of the algae island was not only to prepare the reader for part 3, but to tie in many aspects of part 1. The parts where Pi experiences darkness on the Island represents his turning away from God. On the Lifeboat, it was mostly light. On the life boat, Pi survived.
All of the other aspects of the animal story were symbols of physical things in the 'real' story. Pi was the tiger, the sailor was the zebra, and so on. However, the Island goes against that theme. I beleive that the Island represents the one aspect of Pi's experience that is not physical-- his faith. In the darkness beneath the canopy on the island, there was death and loss of faith; as soon as Pi got off the Island, he turned himself to God.
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ReplyDeleteThis story is a very heart wrenching story that has heavy references to go in it. This story has not made me believe in god anymore than I did before I read this story. If anything the main messages in the book is faith vs. facts and the perception of reality. With the telling of the two different stories at the end make you question what is the better story. We have one with animals and one with humans but I think there are very strong parallels between them both. This story makes me rethink reality in itself. There are very many parallels with god which connects to the perception of reality theme. All of the messages in the book are woven into each other for example through out his journey Pi looks to God for guidance through this journey. He starts to loose sight of God when he lands on the island. While on the island his perception of reality had changed until he saw the stars which changed his reality again.
Stenner Craig Third Block
There are 2 stories, but to say there are only 2 choices is illogical. I believe that Martel presents both stories not for a person to choose which one is right and which one is wrong but to take aspects from both. I think the animals from the 1st one represent the "method of madness" in each character of the second. For example it is hard to picture a boy killing a grown man, but yet it easy to see a tiger killing a man. Also the story is alot easier to the conscious when you think of a hyena attacking a zebra instead of a man severing anothers leg. I believe the central message of the story is that people are born for a reason and a purpose. We were not put here to make things seem logical, or to be able to reason with things, but to engulf this entire life much, much more. In Pi's Journey he fulfils his life to quite possibly the max. He has felt every emotion, every spiritual renaissance, and has had encounters he truly will remember for the rest of his life.
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ReplyDeleteAt the end of Life of Pi, the reader is left to decide which story they believe; the story involving animals, or the one involving humans. Martel's central message, while hidden throughout the entire novel, is essentially summed up in his final pages. We must choose what we believe to be fact or myth, and no one else can choose for us. Every reader will have a different opinion as to which story is true and what really happened, but who is right and who is wrong? That is where Martel's message truly comes to light. Why does it matter which story is true and which is myth if, in the end, the outcome is the same? Martel hits with this message hard at the end of the book when revealing the two stories to the reader and as Pi asks the Japanese reporters which story they believe. Throughout the entire book, Martel had subtly used this message in many ways, such as with faith vs logic and fact vs belief. As Pi mentions in Part of the book, which religion is true: Christianity, Muslim, or Hinduism? However, as we learn from Martel's central message, it does not matter which religion is "true" and which are "myth" because they are all essentially serving to a God and are, in the end, all the same.
Ben Kaiser
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In regards to the second question, I think that his central message is that what the "true" story is does not matter. He is trying to convey that a life that is lived through hard evidence and reason only is an empty life. Both stories had the same plot points and the same interactions between characters if one draws a parallel between the characters of both stories. The Japanese men in part three seemed to believe that the story with humans was the true story, while the one with animals was the better story. Pi explained that, because the stories were mostly the same, the men should believe the better story, rather than the one that is mostly likely to be true.
ReplyDeleteI believe Martel's reason of two stories is for the reader to not get caught up in emotion and keep and open mind to what could really have happened because in the story with animals there's alot of events that hard to believed and somewhat unreal so Martel's message in that is it's up to the reader to decide which story is real to him/her such as Pi choosing to be apart of three religions. Also, his message shows religion and the two stories all have a central meaning its whether you believe in something that can't be proven like God and an acidic, carnivorous island which can be categorized into faith vs logic.
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What I think Mr. Adirubasmy meant when he told the author that he has a story that will make him believe in God is that the end of the novel will leave some people questioning all abstract concepts previoulsy thought of as nonsense. When Pi is telling the Japanese reporters about the animals in his first story, and they dont beleive him, he tells them that just because they have never seen two things together (a tiger in a lifeboat) does not mean that it cannot exsist. In the same vein as Pi's story being unblieveable to the Japanese reporters, and to many readers as well, I think that Mr. Adirubasmy is preparing the author (and in turn the readers) for the questionsing of whether or not to beleive in the concrete story with the people, or the abstract story with the animals. As with Pi's stories, people often have to decide whether to take a leap of faith and belive in religion, or to just go with what seems factual and concrete.
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I feel as if the central message of the storie can be inferred in a couple different ways, but for me the central message would be that life its self can be a myth that you have to discover yourself. Only you have control of your life and your beliefs, and it is your responsibility to decide what you believe in. For most people, they would choose the second story because it can be explained with more logic. But for the people in search of excitement and hope would choose the first story for it may possibly leave room for hope and insurance of a non conformed society. Logic may be a strong tool, but faith can keep any one true.
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Martel's central message was to emphasize that the "true" story is irrelavent. He is trying to show that when people base their lives solely off what makes sense and is tangible, that their lives are often empty. Pi had a strong distain for Agnostics because they never took a leap of faith, they just stayed in the middle. Although he himself loved religion, he still had respect for atheists becuase they at least took a leap of faith and believed in nothing. I think that this all ties in with the two stories at the end. Although Pi says the story with the animals is the right story, the japanese men dont beleive it, so he tells another one. It didnt matter to Pi which one they beleived; he just wanted them to take a leap of faith and beleive in one of them. This shows Martel's central message of disregaurding the "truth," but instead finding ones own truth instead.
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ReplyDeleteTowards the end of the novel, Pi says, " So tell me, since it makes no factual difference to you and you can't prove the question either way, which story do you prefer? Which is the better story, the story with the animals or the story without the animals?" Although there are very many ways of interpreting this quote, i believe Pi is implying that no matter what religion/story you believe in, at least you believe in something.
Briana Jahnsen
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Question two asks which is the real story and if it matters which is. It does not matter which is the real story because they both have the same outcome. The story with the animals is more difficult to believe, but makes you wonder if without pi's religion could he have survived. The story with the people is more based on someone's will to survive and what "measure of madness" someone can be push to if it comes to life or death.
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ReplyDeleteMartel asks us what story is better. His intentions aren’t to give two stories to please all of his readers; he wants to invoke questions in his readers minds. He asks them to question what is real on multiple levels. What really happened isn’t what is important. The importance of this story is to force readers to take a leap of faith towards their beliefs and how they choose to perceive the story. There are facts that something happened, but exactly what is unclear, and unimportant. The story is to evoke thought and faith not tell a story filled with fact.
Macie Burkett
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Macie is right in saying “The importance of this story is to force readers to take a leap of faith towards their beliefs and how they choose to perceive the story.” The story itself is unimportant Martel is simply using the story as a pathway to get his exuberant point across. He is trying to show that we all have decisions in our lives and we can make those decisions based on fact or belief. Although we may not all come to the same conclusion it is not the conclusion that is important, but the steps in getting to that conclusion. Martel is using Pi and the other characters to resemble ourselves. To show that we are living out a story. A story with animals or a story with people, but the true question is which story will you choose to embrace?
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the island symbolizes the feelings of Pi being in lightness and then darkness. I believe this because Pi talks alot about the difference between night and day while being on the lifeboat, but also lightness and darkness for religion. This was mentioned in ch 7 page 27 when Mr. Kumar states, "I don't believe in religion. Religion is darkness." This relates to the island of algae because during the day the the island allows for Pi to be satisfied because he can eat and have fresh water, but at night the island turns carniverous to the point where fish die, the meerkats sleep in the trees, and Richard Parker and Pi both realize that the island is highly acidic. The lightness and darkness on the island allows for Pi at this time in the readign to almost seem as if he forgets about the religions and believing in God. I believe this because towards the end when he realizes that he needs to get himself and Richard Parker off the island he says, "I should turn to God." This was brought to my attention because while reading the chapter I hadn't initially thought that Pi had turned away from God for any lenght of time, so when he said that at the end of the chapter it caused my reaction to change from oh he is leaving the island, to wow was this true that maybe the island symbolized and tested Pi's faith?
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During his time on the Algae Island he encounters many different impossible actions. Like the Japanese people said, that it is completely impossible for there to be any type of island like that. I believe that the island is a symbol of his encounter with God. That during the day it is heaven for him, all is well and nice. He is fed during the day and is able to relax, but at night it turns to hell. It also may be his thoughts about how he lost his sight of God and is waiting for it to come back. It also might be a symbolism for his doubt. Everything he went through could possibly add up to this feeling, that when the idea of God was present it was the light. Although, when the idea that there is no God, there was no light, he was lost and hunted. Therefore bringing him to the 3rd part of the book, and telling the Japanese men about his encounter with the island, yet when in actuality it was in his own mind. He was telling the Japanese men his difficulty believing in God, yet in the end God pulled through and saved him.
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3. The island in part 2 represents Pi’s inevitable loss of faith in god. Pi went on and on for months drifting in the middle of the ocean with no rescue and no prayers to be answered. In Pi’s mind he was alone in the world and slowly but surely lost faith in not just god but survival. The island represented this time when Pi abandoned faith. The island was a peaceful place with warmth and comfort, but with just a little bit of looking into, this would be the place that would ultimately be his demise. Without faith Pi would have given up on living and surely die, once he realized this Pi returned to faith with a new refreshed mindset and carried on in an even greater love in god than before. Kyle Woo
ReplyDeleteI believe the island represents Pi turning away from God. When he first arrives on the island he finds food, shelter, and water and believes it to be the place for him to wait until he is rescued. Upon further examination he soon discovers that while the island is paradise during the day, it turns into a sort of hell at night. This is similar to God in that it is easy to live life without God when life is easy, day on the island, but its much harder to live life when things become difficult or during the night on the island. In the end Pi discovers that he cant live on the island when it turns into hell at night and cannot live without God when life becomes difficult.
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I believe the island symbolizes God because by making the island acidic and horrible at night shows Pi that he has to remember that things don't come easy and that the island would soon be the end of his life if the island was perfect during the day. And because of that he turned back to God to show him the way and keep him alive with an even stronger bond with God and religion and a refined hope that he will survive being stranded on the ocean. When Pi realizes that's the way he and richard parker leave the island as soon as they can because Pi knew they would die and he promised Richard parker that he would get him to land.
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ReplyDeleteThe island is the point in Pi’s journey where he turns away/ is separated from God. Although the island was at first thought to be high point of his survival, where PI was in the dark about the dangers of the island. After leaving Pi comes to the conclusion that “high calls low and low calls high,” because when you are at your lowest you want to rely on God, however when you are at your highest the thought of God escapes you.
On a religion related level the island is like the Garden of Eden. The island is similar to the story of the garden of Eden as it symbolizes temptation. Which also explains Pi’s brief turn from God. Just as the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in Eden there is a tree on the island that is different from all the others. Pi takes what he believes to be a piece of fruit. Once he arrives at the center he finds a human tooth and eventually finds that the tree contains a whole set of human teeth. The teeth parallel the knowledge that comes from the forbidden fruit, because with this knowledge Pi must decided to either stay on the island or set out to sea once more.
The island fits into the overall message of the novel because the existence of the island seems so unfathomable to Mr. Okamoto and Mr. Chiba that they can’t make sense of it. But Pi counters their point of “believing in only what we can see” with “what then can you believe in when you’re in the dark” or jokingly he thus cannot believe in the existence of a tiny bonsai tree because he has not seen it before. What Pi is getting at is that just because you can’t or haven’t seen something doesn’t necessarily mean that it cannot exist.
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3. The algae island in part 2 represents the temptation for Pi to drift away from God and his faith. When he is on the island he has everything that he needs to survive and he doesn't need a belief in God to keep him going and help him stay alive. He acknowledges that he could stay there the rest of his life and never be found but it wouldn't be a bad life, as opposed to staying as sea and keeping faith that God would bring him to land or a ship would find him. Once he finds the tree with the teeth in it, he discovers that there are consequences for living the easy life without faith. Once it is dark the island becomes carnivorous and represents sort of a hell. When he realizes this he leaves the island and it symbolizes his return to faith not just in God but that he will find land or get rescued.
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ReplyDeleteBefore finding the island, Pi has gone completely mad at this point, a process that begins in chapter 90. In chapter 89 he writes in his diary that he is dying and has no strength left at all. Then in the following chapter he starts hearing voices and then hallucinates the other castaway and the finds the island. These events leading up to the island, kind of make it harder to believe the story. While reading this island part for the first time, I knew there had to be much more symbolization to this almost humorous island! I believe the island was some sort of renewal for Pi--almost as if it were a gift from God. Pi realized that he could not stay forever because this island was actually dangerous. I believe that this symbolizes settling for something good, or working harder and struggling for something much better. In most peoples lives we get caught up in a comfortable place where we no longer have to work and keep progressing--which can lead to a spiritual death. The main theme for this book would be choosing between logic or a better, less believable, story. The island just tests your opinion on which overall story you believe.
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ReplyDeletePi is in a new place and when darkness falls he is not comforted anymore. When the sunsets and all sources of light disappear you may think Pi is losing hope. I think Pi still has some optimism left inside. He dose say he is scared and “relived myself in my pants.” But constantly he is staring to where he believes the horizon is for any help. As for the mood, the absence of light creates a dark, hopeless feeling. But you must remember Pi has a deep faith and trust in God, he will not lose all hope that fast.
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I agree with Jordan when she says that Pi still has that sense of optimism towards life even when darkness falls. This can be seen primarily in Chapter 60 where Pi states that “For the first time I noticed—as I would notice repeatedly during my ordeal, between one throe of agony and the next—that my suffering was happening in a great setting.” It was then that Pi decided his suffering was insignificant in the broad scheme of things. For it was during nightfall that Pi truly felt a connection with God for he could see his presence above him in the stars, and even though these stars were not present during the day, the presence of God was still surrounding him.
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Like Carissa was saying Pi relyed mostly on his faith and eventhough he was straineded by himselfon a boat and or island he found his comfort during the night fall where he had the time to look through the galaxys and talk to God. To Pi it seemed as if talking to God gave him the reasurance that he would be able to make through to the next day alive. Also through the night not only Pi felt close to God but also i believe that he felt close to his family eventhough they where not directly linked to him at the moment but he felt that maybe they were looking at the same stars as him or they were looking down on him.
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#3 The island sets up the reader for Part 3 because it is another start to Pis journey. Richard Parker wanted to stay on the island because he felt wild and free; but Pi wanted to leave because he noticed it was carnivorous. The island seemed like a place that was paradise to Richard Parker (Pis measure of madness) while Pi (God) had told him that it is time to go and that he fell off his path to find society. Pi (God) gives Richard Parker (Pi) guidance to survive.
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ReplyDeleteMr. Adirubasamy used this quote as something to pull in his readers but he also made it seem like he was going to supply us with factual evidence that would in fact make us “believe in God;” however, this is not how he showed us God what so ever. This is a story that toys with faith vs. reason by telling us two separate stories and bringing them together as one in the readers mind. Each reader can decide whether they want to take the leap of faith and believe in the animal version of the story, or believe the more realistic version that is told with humans. I do think that Mr. Adirubasamy’s claim is held true once we are finished with the novel. There are many instances where we can see the presence of God and the difference between light and dark (believing/non-believing). This is shown clearly in the depictions in Chapter 60 where Pi talks about the difference between night and day, and how the stars represent God mentioning that even though you can’t always see them, they’re always there.
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In much of the story symbols show someone finding their way through the journey of life. Perhaps the island symbolizes the idea of settling for something seemingly good when there is something much better. Though the price to get that better thing is high, full of hard work, and saturated with fear and doubt. On the surface it may seem that the island is a good thing being full of food, water, and shelter. However we all know the carnivorous truth. The island seems to represent his separation with god the way he disregards faith and just takes the easy things from the island. It seems that our lives can easily slip into that pattern of settling for something good when it can turn out to be our doom. We have countless examples of this in our society; affairs, drug addictions, and sadly many more afflictions. Also this seems to tie in with the message in that we make our own choices and decide the better story for ourselves.
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The island stands as a message from god that seems to be a gift for Pi but then turns bad. Pi states that he could live on the island and have a perfectly fine life alone while living off the land. However, after Pi spends a few nights on the Island he starts to realize that it may not be a gift from god but a message from god. He decided to start back on the life boat and put his life in god's hands. This is when he is saved and things actually start to look up for him. This is yet another one of Martel's ways of getting us to think about believing in the unseen and question weather we should stand on the side of faith or reason.
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ReplyDeleteYann Martel uses the algae island to sum up the character, Richard Parker, as Pi's animalistic side or his "Measure of Madness." The island represents a sanctuary for Richard Parker as it allows him to roam as the animal he is and eat freely; however, as in Martel's central theme of lightness versus darkness, while the island may be an eden during the day, it is evil at night. One may go so far as to say that the island represented the moment when Pi devoured the flesh of the french cook. His "Measure of Madness" and instinct as an animal had now become evident. On the light side, Pi was given the satisfaction of food in his mouth, but a part of him felt that what he doing was evil. Once Pi was provided the epiphany that he was doing something terribly wrong, he collected and trained "Richard Parker" and decided to "leave the island." It is possible that God, who he loved so much, gave him the strength to ignore his animalistic instinct and, in a sense, resist the forbidden fruit of human flesh.
In the "authors note," Francis Adirubasamy says that "he has a story that will make you believe in God." After reading the story I would agree with Mr. Adirubasamy's claim because Pi's story is farfetched. Without some help from a God like power his survival would be near impossible, even if Gods presence wasn't felt by readers, think about how Pi wouldn't have been able to stay mentally strong without faith in God. After a few break downs, during Pi's strange duration on the life boat, he turned to God and all his questions where answered. I think after people read the novel they at least thought about Gods exsistance furthermore; Adirubasamy's claim was true to some extent.
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ReplyDeleteThe island was kind of a strange and confusing part of the novel but I think it set up part 3 very well. At that point in the novel, I started to become skeptical of Pi's story because it seemed unbelievable that a person could survive what he had been through. After the story described the island as carnivorous and covered in meercats, I started to question several of the aspects of Pi's adventure. This sets up for part 3 because it creates a sense of doubt and disbelief in Pi's story and his perception of reality.
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Andrew Newby brings up a valuable point here with the island being carnivorous and covered in meercats. It leaves us skeptical of whats to come in part 3. The author almost sets it up as if you could believe what happens on the island, that you could believe what Pi's story of animals or humans. The island tends to symbolize everything that has happened to Pi in his journey.
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I agree with both Andrew and Taylor on this argument. Throughout reading the story I was sort of going along with it believing it for the most part, even though most of the events were improbable. But when it came down to the island, that's when it started to get a little freaky. I think that this island was more of a symbol of Pi's life than something that actually happened. If the island part actually did happen, it was probably just a little exaggerated a bit. But this all is a good thing though because it does set up for part 3 perfectly. Part 3 brings in a new angle of the story that gives the reader a new perspective on it, coming up with something more believable.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the island chapter relates back to the light and darkness that Pi encounters throughout the novel. Day on the island is great, Pi could eat as much algae as he wanted, and drink fresh water until his stomach would explode, where as when darkness falls the island becomes evil and “carnivorous”. The island kinda relates back to the whole idea that Mr. Kumar states, “I don’t believe in religion. Religion is darkness.” The darkness in the night caused the island to be carnivorous, where fish were just dying, and Pi starting finding teeth in the trees. I believe at this point Pi begins to start reminding himself that he needs to turn to God, and show that he truly was a believer, and show his strength through his faith.
Madison Rockefeller
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Through out the story there is a reoccurent theme of faith vs reality and light vs dark. As we reach the island in the book it's a gleam of hope for Pi and Richard Parker. This book is parallel to many religions and in most religions there is a place for the good people and a place for the bad people. In another sense heaven and hell. I belive that this is what the island represents. Pi has struggled to survive and all of a sudden there is a place with everything he needs to survive. But when darkness falls it is the complete oppisite and does everything it can to kill and destroy anything among it. If someone somehow came from heaven or hell and tried to explain its wonders or horrors to us, no one would believe and react quite similarly to the japanese men. This is very interesting to me that Yann Martel puts this genere of safe haven "heaven" and extreme danger "hell" on the same symbol or island in this case.
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ReplyDeleteThe island in Life of Pi by Yann Martel symbolizes a test to how much survivalknowledge and instincts he has obtained.The island tests his knowledge good and evil; eventhough, in the story when we realize Pi has reached and island we thinkfreedom fromthe life raft and a better chance for survival a good side of the story as we keep reading we began to relize at an higher pace that this island turns out to be more evilthan good. In a way of Pis' true safe home is on the life raft and not the island and this symbolizes that life is not always greener on the other side and what Pi realized was his life was safer on the non canivours boat than the carniovours island.
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ReplyDeleteThe island might symbolize the Garden of Eden. It has the same characteristics, such as the tree that seemed to have fruit. Just like the forbidden fruit, this tree had black “fruit”. Pi had this illusion of an island that gave him salvation. Once he found the set of human teeth in the tree, his illusion was shattered, and he came to realize that he could not survive on the island. The island refers to the day vs. night and light vs. dark themes because “the radiant promise it offered during the day was replaced in my heart by all the treachery it delivered at night." (282). It fits in with the overall message by Pi’s illusion of God’s miracle during the day returning him to life (269), and at night reality shows the island’s evil fault.
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I agree completely. The island does represent the Garden of Eden. With Adam and Eve were both tempted to eat of the fruit to gain salvation, but when the fruit was bitten into it delivered death and punishment. Essentially the fruit Pi finds does the same thing. Pi has everything he needs, but when he eats of the “forbidden fruit” he is forced to leave his “paradise” in order to survive. Martel makes this correlation I believe because he wants us to make a choice in our lives or investigate in our lives to see the “forbidden fruit” which provides us with a choice: will you take a bite? This is one of Martel’s many points with the “Garden of Eden”/ Pi’s Island.
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In the end of the book during the interview, there is a prevalent theme between reality and beleif. When Pi asks the question, "which is the better story?" Yann Martel gets the reader thinking. I beleive that since he presents the stories so equally, the point was to eliminate any favor of one story being the real one over the other. This allows the possibility that one story might be more true, although the reader may have had their mind set on another. In my opinion, this is his way of portraying the possibility that what we don't know or understand as people may in fact be the truth. Also, whether the reader beleives in God or not, the fact is this: Pi survived because he turned to God. When he was on the island, he found himself losing his faith and would have rotted there on the island
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ReplyDeleteThe symbol of the island is a mystery to all, does it represent faith, does it represent fact these are just meager guesses at what the island truly represents. Martel leaves the island mysterious so that the reader must come to their own answer about the island. The island can represent everything or nothing depending on the reader. The island obviously represents Pi’s turning away from God and his indulgence in the world. Pi states about the chef’s heart, “I managed to get it out. It tasted delicious, far better than turtle” (Martel 311). Pi has obviously left God and is now relying on himself to provide the food he wants. When Pi talks of Richard Parker killing more than he needs, which is Pi devouring the flesh of the chef. The island burning him would be Pi’s guilt in the killing and demolishing of the chef. The meerckats resemble the greed in Pi as he eats the chef like the meerkats eat the fish. Pi also finds human teeth (a full set) in a fruit and that is when Pi leaves, he leaves the world and turns back to God. Pi says that “worse still he met the evil in me----selfishness,anger,ruthlessness. I must live with that. Solitude began. I turned to God. I survived.” (Martel 311). This shows us that sometimes falling away from what you believe helps you temporarily but ends up hurting you like the acid of the island/chef. Obviously the can mean many things and it is up to the reader to find what they believe.
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ReplyDeleteIn the beginning of the story a claim was made by Adirubasamy, his claim stated “I have a story that will make you believe in God”. Of this claim I thought that the book would give nonreligious people a reason to believe in God and make religious people more concrete in their faith. After reading the book I learned that this was not the case. I believe that this book was never supposed to make people believe in God specifically, but that it was meant to expand people’s way of thinking. For example Pi’s second story is something that most people would say is more realistic but when we are put in the position to choose which story we prefer, most would choose his first story because it symbolizes a less tragic journey. Which is something that can be compared to religious people, they would rather believe in something that may not be real then live their life with nothing to hope for.
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ReplyDeleteThe island is very big part in this book. Pi finds this oasis and becomes more happy than he had in awhile. This island gives him a place to roam around and gives him vital resources that he needs. This island could possibly symbolize a time after Richard Parker killed the blind man. Pi eats some of the meat to keep himself alive. The island relates to the message because this is a time in the story where he turns his back on god because life is going good. He no longer needs god to help him through out the day he can depend on himself. This does not last long for Pi truly needs god in his journey. When Pi realizes the island is carnivorous because the floor becomes acidic he debates upon leaving. Pi near the end of this section looks up to the stars and realizes he has strayed from god and decides to fully dedicate himself to god. When Pi discovers human teeth in the fruit on the island he decides to leave the island because it will be the demise of him and Richard Parker if he stays, so he continues his journey with god and Richard Parker.
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I saw the island as a " simple solution " to Pi's woes that also meant that he could be turning his back away from God, because staying on the raft forced Pi to have faith with God. The island at first seems like a paradise, an escape from the treacherous sea Pi endures. While sleeping in the trees, Pi sees the fish floating in the small ponds, which seem to have an erie glow to them. This foreshadows the fact that Pi may not be remaining on the island. Also, at night, Pi resides in the treetops; while gazing upwards he realizes that he cannot see the night sky, which has now been covered up by the tree leaves. This could be a symbol of a diminishing faith with God because Mr. Kumar mentions in the beginning that " God is darkness", and without the darkness of the sky, that could mean that God is no longer with Pi. Soon afterwards, Pi returns to the boat due to another incident that makes him realize the boat was the best thing he could have in the first place. The island could fit with the overall message of the book by representing Pi's choice of faith in God, though it may have not been the most rationale thing to do by going back to the boat, he chose what gave him hope.
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Interesting ideas here. But Mr. Kumar said "Religion is darkness." Is that any different than "God is darkness"? Or is it the same thing?
DeleteI agree with Leilani, somewhat, when she says that the island seemed as the simple solution. The island was Pi no longer depending on God to survive but for him to survive on his own. Pi quickly realizes that he needs God in order to survive. On the other hand, I do believe there is a difference between "Religion is darkness" and "God is darkness” Mr. Kumar being an Atheist calls religion darkness. Personally, I think that he is saying that religion is barren, and in other words empty. I think he is referring the darkness to more of emptiness because he doesn't believe it exists, rather than an actual Physical dark. I still think throughout the story God is shown as light.
DeleteThrough out the story of Life Of Pi, Yann Martel shows us the journey of lonliness, friendship, and faith. Near the end when he introduces the island, he shows a gleem of hope for Pi and Richard Parker. The island is used as a source of happiness and hope for the two of them. The island during the day provided food and supplies for them, which can be used as an example of the light being good, but at night when it becomes dark, the island becomes dangerous. Such as faith, you cant rely only on faith and god, but must also realize that life is reality and must use logic to survive everyday. This applies to Pi and his journey before and after the island.
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#3 The Jungle symbolizes Pi killing the chief and retraining the animal inside of himself. “I ate till there was a regular moat around me.” (Martel 327) Pi was eating the algae till he was stuffed. Richard Parker did the same thing with the meerkats eating past his fill. Both have similarity with Part 3 when PI kills and eats the chief. After Pi eats his fill in part 2 he retrains Richard Parker to go through a loop which symbolizes Pi training the animal within himself so his true self isn’t lost. If the animal where to take over he would just be filled with madness and continue to act like Richard Parker.
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ReplyDeleteAs the question states the events Pi has been through are very hard to believe, yet at the end of Part Two he comes to this island that by all means of biology and life should not exist. The island makes the reader start to question the truth of the story that they have read. They are forced to question whether this can actually happen and if there is some meaning of faith behind it. one idea is that the island was something to try and tempt him to stay; such as a devil of sorts. "How much loneliness endured? How much hopelessness taken on? And after all that, what of it? What to show for it?"(Martel 356). While the island was a magnificent stop for Pi it was fooling him into thinking he was in a safe haven. The island was almost trying to get Pi to stop and stay and eventually die with his teeth becoming the next "fruit". The island makes Pi's second story, about humans, more believable because of the sheer craziness of this island.
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The island was an allusion to the age old tale of Homer's the odyssey in which the hero of the tale becomes lost at sea and finds an island that is simply too good to be true. It has everything he needs yet it will consume him and he will eventually never leave. While the main themes of the book seemed to revolve around Pi's faith as a key to survival the Island seemed to be a way for Pi's to cope with his situation when it simply became far too harsh for Pi to withstand his current reality. For instance, the Island came into the story shortly after Richard Parker killed the French Man which was the equivalent to Pi killing the cook in the other story. It seemed that the killing was just too much for Pi to handle (along with the rest of his story) and his mind had to find a way to deal with it when God wasnt helping him enough. To me, it also appeared that going to the Island paradise (even with all its flaws) was the kind of break from the mental pain and suffering that actually saved Pi. It let him gain his strength back and once his mind was strong enough to go on, he realized the dangers of being stuck in that kind of mind set and went on with his journey.
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ReplyDeleteI feel that the island prepped us as readers for part three based on believing the unexplainable with both of Pi’s stories. Pi’s journey seems nearly impossible to the physical world because of the length of time he spent at sea and managed to survive, just as the island is seen as impossible. I think Martel was trying to get the reader to have a creative mind and think beyond the physical world, a world that only God could create. The algae island that would become carnivorous at night could only exist by the grace of God just like how Pi was able to survive out at sea to tell his story.
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The overall message of the book is that in life we need to be able to take a leap of faith. By adding in the chapter about the island, Martel is forcing to take a leap of faith and choose whether or not we want to believe something that has many impossibilities. This chapter prepares us for part 3 because if we don't believe what Martel told us in part 2, there is another option for us to believe. By taking a leap of faith and believe part 2 and the island chapter, we will be part of a much more enjoyable story; the human story given to us in part three is much more dry and boring although it is much more believable.
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The island represented the time in Pi's journey where he turns his back to god. When he is on the island he cannot see the stars at night even thought he is sleeping in the trees. This represents to me how the light of god was not with him at this time. Although when he was in the life boat he saw the stars and the "light" they produced. The island was an oasis he couldnt resist, it offered him an escape from the trouble and tough times on the boat. When Pi decided to go back on the boat he was choosing to believe in god again even though it meant leaving a life of ease.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the island was evil attempting to distract Pi from God. While he was on the island, life seemed perfect. Although he was alone and still a castaway, he was content. However, he was still a castaway, he was content. However, he was still alone, and it didn't occur to him until he noticed the human teeth in the fruit, that he needed to be saved; mentally and physically. In the novel Pi says, "you get your happiness where you can. You reach a point where you're at the bottom of hell, yet you have your arms crossed and a smile on your face, and you feel like you're the luckiest person on earth. Why? Because at your feet you have a tiny dead fish." (Martel 217) I believe that in this quote, Pi is elaborating on the fact that ones happiness is limited on reaching its full potential without God.
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ReplyDeleteWhile we discussed the island in class and many have commented on the island on the blog, I did not see it as a symbol of God or faith. I saw the island as almost a symbol of Pi's "Measure of Madness." Pi discovers the island after Richard Parker kills the blind man (the cook?) in the animal story. After killing and eating the blind man, Pi's easure of madness becomes out of control, and thus the metaphorical island is formed. On the island, Richard Parker roams freely in the day killing as many meerkats as he needs and keeps himself well fed, even killing more than he needs to. This represents Pi's madness getting out of control. Pi's madness gives him the ability to fish, hunt, and gain food. But when it "goes off," Pi has the ability to eat till he's full; however, the cost to that is life, like that of the blind mans or of more dorado and turtles than he needs to feed himself. The island represents Pi trying to keep his Madness in check, and him losing control of it. This is why Pi must retrain Richard Parker (his 'madness') on the island: he knows his madness is getting out of control. The carnivorous tendencies of the island at night represent Pi's measure of madness when it gets out of control. The carnivorous island does not kill to eat, but merely will kill for the sake of killing. Also, its acidic properties harm all around it, regardless of foe or friend. Once Pi realizes that the island is carnivorous is when he realizes that his measure of madness can become a dangerous and uncontrollable thing. This is when Pi decides to leave the island and leave his madness behind. After Pi leaves the island, we see no more instances of Richard Parker's courage while at sea because Pi left his madness (Richard Parker) and has moved forward. This relates to the message as in myth vs reality. The island is logistically an impossibility; however, the properties of the island were 100% real, taking place internally within Pi. This is what I believe about the island.
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ReplyDeleteI believe what Mrs. Somers said today was partially true about both of the stories being true. Only one of the stories could have actually happened obviously, but which ever one is true, the other must have an underlying message. It doesn't really matter which story is true because either way both have a central message. I believe that the central message is that in this story, there are two types of people, the believers and the nonbelievers, nonbelievers choosing the dry yeastless factuality story, and the believers choosing the more exciting outrageous story.
Brett Kessler
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In regards to question three, the island can be related to the main message of the novel in many different ways. Before proceeding, it should be noted that the island is most likely an allusion to the island of Ogygia in Homer's epic, The Odyssey. Both island offer the main characters great fortune, yet both hide dark, dangerous secrets. Both characters come to the realization that they must leave the island in order to accomplish their goals. The island is Life of Pi marks when the reader must take a large leap of faith in order to believe this otherwise impossible story. The island emphasizes the contrast between truth and belief within the novel.
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I think that the algea island went along with Martel's light and darkness theme. In the novel light symbolized God and the better times Pi had on the lifeboat. Whenever there was darkness in the novel it was always when Pi was really struggling either physically from lack of food, and especially mentally when he just was not sure if he could keep on going any longer. The island was his safehaven during the day, where he could eat and drink as much as he wanted, and Richard Parker, who I think was really Pi's measure of madness, would dissapear. Once darkness fell, however, the island was carnivourous, dangerous, and had nothing beneficial to offer Pi, and therefore Richard Parker (Pi's measure of maddness) would return.
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For the first question the statement that is made is not really what it sounds like. Yann Martel reinforces religion and make sure that in whatever religion your into your faith becomes stronger throughout life. He also tells two stories and the first one is less tragic becuase there arent many people mentioned in the story, compared to the second one that brings up amputations and it definetley bring up a stronger case to us humans.
ReplyDeleteMartel uses the paradoxical pair of light vs. dark to help relate to his overall message. Pi has told us that he was more aware during the daytime but felt drained from the vast ocean skyline. He used light as a sign of hope and freedom as well, “On many nights I was convinced I saw a light in the distance. Each time I set off a flare.” But each time Pi’s efforts were hopeless and the savior he requested upon was nothing more than his imagination. When the night hit and darkness fell, Pi said he could see tons of stars in the sky and that they helped him find God with each one. He even mentions that when he gets to the island, the trees blocked his view of God and initiated his trek back towards reality and to find clarity with “the stars.”
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4. Martel uses the comparison of light versus dark throughout the book to help us understand Pi's attitude during his journey. Light represented hope and a positive attitude, whereas darkness stood for despair and sadness. "Despair was a heavy blackness that let no light in or out. It was a hell beyond expression"(264). Martel uses imagaery in this quote to help us feel for Pi, make us know how alone and sad he was at times of his journey.
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I believe that the animal story is the true story. I think the central message of the book is that you will have a much more fulfilling life if you take a leap of faith. In the begging, Pi says he can't stand agnostics because they won't make a choice. Although there are many occurrences in part 2 that seem impossible, I think the animal story is true and pi adds these parts to force us to make a choice if we are willing to take a leap of faith and believe the story. If we take a leap of faith and believe the animal story, we will be a part of a much more interesting and fun story.
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Delete4. One of Martel’s interesting opposites was the symbol of light vs dark. When looking at nearly every event within the book, there seemed to be a correlation that light was good and darkness was bad. For example there was the island, it was safe and plentiful with food during the day, but at night it was a place of despair and death. When Pi was in the lifeboat he constantly talked about how much he hated night time and the fact that he had such a hard time sleeping. He would sit there alone in the pitch black and couldn’t help but feel that even god had left him. Lastly when Pi slowly went blind to malnutrition and came ever so close to death, he was nearly killed by the French man, until Richard Parker killed him and Pi regained his eye sight. To the contrary of the evil darkness, Pi always felt at peace and safe during the day. He was able to fish, write in his journal and most importantly train Richard Parker. All of these tasks is what Pi tells us kept him alive, otherwise boredom and fear would have ended him. The daytime was Pi’s life and it was what kept him going, but at night he dwindled on the edge of loneliness and death. Kyle Woo
ReplyDeleteYann Martels story provides multiple choices to the reader therefore underlineing the central message of the story. The reason behind his madness was to show readers that they ultimately have to power to believe or not believe. After reading I believe both of the stories are true in that the human side has animal characteristics. I dont think Martel intended for one story to be solely true he wanted to provide readers with the power to make their own desicions. Another example of Martel providing the reader with choices is in the "make you believe in God", quote. We have the choice in weather God was present or not.
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I completely agree with Mr. Covey on his stance with the central message of the story. I also believe that Martel doesn't intend for one of the stories to be necessarily right. I think Mr. Covey has a good point when he says that Martel's quote of " Make you believe in God" isn't intended to be a promise. He doesn't say I bet you will believe in God in the end and if you don't your wrong. No, he gives us as the readers the choice to decide if we believe in God or not. The story is stretching our beliefs more and more as it goes on I think Martel is trying to see how far he can stretch us before we stop and think no that can't be, this isn't reasonable. By Martel giving us the option of either story he is making us really think, what do I believe!!!
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ReplyDeleteOne set of opposites that Yan Martel uses throughout the book was light vs. dark. Now most know that light and dark as day and night or happy or sad, but the way that Martel uses light and dark in the book was very interesting. At one point when he is talking about the island he did use light and dark just like day and night, but there was more to it then just that meaning. Earlier in the book Pi talks about how Mr. Kumar states that "Religion is darkness" and how Pi couldn't believe that he actually thought that, there is that differnece because it is not day and night. Now fast foward to the island. Pi and Richard Parker are finally able to get off of the lifeboat and replenish the nutrients to their bodies, but come night fall Pi goes back to the lifeboat to sleep and see Richard Parker running towards him at full speed. It took Pi a while before he figured out that during the NIGHT the island became carniverous. This brings up again the light and darkness because during the day life is good, but at night it becomes dangerous. The island is almost the complete opposite from when Pi is on the raft at night when he wakes up and describes how the night looked to him, and that he was safe because it was like the presense of God was there with him. It's hard to say if Pi lost some touch with God during his time on the island, but when he left he realized he needed to fix that.
Kendall Larson
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ReplyDeleteI think that the island symbolizes anything you want it to mean. It could be represented as many things such as Pi's "Measure of Madness" or how it could have been the part in his life where he began to stray away from God and start living a life of doubt. Another possibility that is could mean, in which i believe, is that it could simply just mean nothing, has no meaning behind it at all, it just happened. I choose to believe that the first story Pi tells is the true one, and if I am right, then the island was more of an event that just happened instead of something that symbolizes something else. This fits into the main message because it shows that God looks over us and protects us; many crazy things happened in that story the only explanation can be explained through God.
Brett Kessler
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ReplyDeleteMartel uses many opposites throughout his story; some are used to make the reader make a choice about life. Some are used to express the magnitude and meaning behind something in life. Martel uses opposites such as faith vs. reason, science vs. religion, light vs. dark, blindness vs. sight, boredom vs. terror, despair vs. hope all have meaning behind it but what I find most compelling are the ones we do not think of as opposites but truly are in the book. Through out the book the sky and the sea are seen as opposites although never said to be opposites the way Martel uses them makes it obvious that they are. The sky represents God and when Pi turns to the sky good things happen “the sky was spitting rain on my smiling face” (Martel 215) and when Pi is on the sea he is usually hurt and starving “the sea thundered like avalanches”(Martel 215). Although the sea provides the fish the sky provide Pi with his essential needs of water and the flying fish essentially come from the sky. The sky and sea are seen as opposites and the reader must make their choice about what they represent.
JJ Campbell
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ReplyDeleteMartel uses opposites throughout the whole book. The main pair of opposites to me were the fact of reality vs. fantasy. The first time I noticed this was when the statement “I have a story that will make you believe in God” was said. Some people may think that without certain evidence there is not a God; thus, making the idea of God more of a fantasy. Also another example from the book was separating Pi’s hallucinations from reality while he was on the boat. Because of how the animal story was formatted it was impossible to think he could be talking to the hyena. We find out at the end of the book that this had been a reality because the hyena ultimately represented the cook. What had once been a fantasy became a reality. I believe that Martel uses this strong tool of reality vs. fantasy to get his reader to think creatively and discover the central message.
Ali Turner
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ReplyDeleteThroughout the story, Martel uses opposite/contradictory phrases to provide insight to what I believe is the moral of the story. The biggest contradictory idea that he uses is the comparison of faith to reason. In part one of the book, Pi talks about the brotherhood of athiests and religious people because both take a "leap of faith". He also criticizes agnostics because they live their lives in doubt and question everything. Both athiests and religious people have faith in their own logical way of seeing the world while agnostics do not. Finally in part 3 of the book, Pi is talking about the differences between the two stories and he asks the two men which story they prefer. When they answer, he repies, "And so it goes with God". This final quote compares the opposite ideas of faith and logic and shows how they can actually support each other.
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Martel uses a lot of different symbols throughout the book to represent the paradoxical pair of religion vs. science. The first thing that comes to my mind is the two Mr. Kumars. While the first Mr. Kumar believes in reason and science the other favors religion. Even though they are opposites, Pi believes there is a place for both of them and he understands both of their points of view. In his life and he takes a great deal from them. I believe through this Martel is showing us that even though science and religion are opposites, they can still coexist and we need both. This is also similar to Pi’s two majors, one in zoology and religious studies. While they are opposites they still have a large effect on Pi’s views and beliefs.
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ReplyDeleteThroughout the novel Martel uses opposites such as light vs. dark, religion vs. science, faith vs. reason. One specific opposite that was carried throughout the novel was light vs. dark. In part two light was seen as comforting to Pi, this is because during the day Pi was able to see everything that was around him, especially Richard Parker. And night for a long while gave Pi discomfort and nights seemed endless. After waking up in the middle of the night he saw the stars and the sea and recalled and Indian story allowing him to realize the beauty of the darkness and made him think of God. By doing this Martel offers a twist in the way we think of things.
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